Coffee at Jakkalsdans

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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Louis Cole » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:41 pm

Thanks for the visit this morning John. It was nice to put a face to the name. You're right about Rwy. 30 and GT's. especially with all the dew on the grass early in the mornings.
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby John.com » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:02 pm

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Fellow Aviators!

I figured that I would post a separate post titled "BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!" viewtopic.php?f=13&t=20057 so that others can learn from my experience at Jakkalsdans this morning.

So, read the report, look at the pictures and watch the video, and then please pen some comments!

Thank you Louis and your wonderful wife Fransa for the hospitality! That home-made bread was worth ending up in a bush for! :lol: :lol:

To Tribal Croc and other GT owners: Would I fly a GT into Jakkalsdans? NO!!!! (it is VERY short, on landing and take off!)


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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Tribal Croc » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:29 am

Louis Cole wrote:
Tribal Croc wrote:Can you give us a little bit more info on your runway ?
TC I have a X-rwy. Rwy. 30/12 approximately 180 m. that I generally land on and 05/23 approximately 280 m. that I generally take off from. Unfortunately both have power lines at the end. No problem for the Raptor but I don't know enough about the Quicks. Flo has landed here before with his school trike and he would be able to advise you better. Would love to meet you and see a GT land here.
Thanks Louis (^^) (^^)

I will speak to Flo but I think the 280m runway will be just just to short :( Take off should be no problem but the landing will keep me on my toes ## ##

I will practice on my runway and see in what distance I can get the GT to stop :arrow: the duel back brakes on the GT's does help a lot ## ##

Hopefully I will see you soon even if its just to buzz you (!!)
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Bundy » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:36 am

This pic of you stuck in the thorn bush is definately one for the Bar John (^^) :lol:

Very glad we can all at least have a little chuckle about it 8)

I can see a Username change coming on? ^

I hereby propose "Bushwhacker" (^^)
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby John.com » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:41 am

Bundy wrote:This pic of you stuck in the thorn bush is definately one for the Bar John (^^) :lol:

Very glad we can all at least have a little chuckle about it 8)

I can see a Username change coming on? ^

I hereby propose "Bushwhacker" (^^)
HaHa! I know, it's far easy to not share these somewhat embarrassing moments and to just let them go but I am a strong believer in sharing for the benefit of others to learn!

If it happens AGAIN maybe the name should stick! Right now it might be a bit premature! :wink:

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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Bulletjie » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:08 am

John, Jou DORING! :mrgreen:
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby John.com » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:46 am

Bulletjie wrote:John, Jou DORING! :mrgreen:
Ja! Amper met die Jakkals gedans!! :lol:
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Loco » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:50 pm

Wow John thanks for sharing, hope no serious damage besides the ego?! :lol:

Can you talk us through the sequence of events please?

Edit: sorry see your thread now viewtopic.php?f=13&t=20057

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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Louis Cole » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:03 pm

Spent the day cutting and pruning those trees that caused John to alter his glide scope and land too deep and I'm amazed at the difference. I've been flying this runway since 1994 and I guess you don't notice the trees gradually getting bigger. You just deal with it every time you land. I've decided not to take John's bush out for obvious reasons. Anybody know an appropriate botanical name ? Maybe an arrestor like on an aircraft carrier could work.
I think John must be commended for sharing this experience in an open forum as most pilots would be embarrassed to do so. I've had many incidents in my early flying career which were due solely to pilot error which I was just too embarrassed to mention to anybody. As a student pilot I listened to the experienced pilots talking about their accidents and near misses and saying that you learn more from others' incidents than in manuals. I remember naively saying at the time that I don't want to learn that way but I now know that they knew what they were talking about. From my experiences I know that when you are faced with a situation and have to make split second decisions, despite what the manual or any checklist says, you focus on the immediate job at hand and that is to land and stop with the least damage to yourself and your trike. So well done John and I really hope there is no serious damage to the Beautiful Seductive Temptress.
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby John.com » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:58 am

Louis Cole wrote:Spent the day cutting and pruning those trees that caused John to alter his glide scope and land too deep and I'm amazed at the difference. I've been flying this runway since 1994 and I guess you don't notice the trees gradually getting bigger. You just deal with it every time you land. I've decided not to take John's bush out for obvious reasons. Anybody know an appropriate botanical name ? Maybe an arrestor like on an aircraft carrier could work.
I think John must be commended for sharing this experience in an open forum as most pilots would be embarrassed to do so. I've had many incidents in my early flying career which were due solely to pilot error which I was just too embarrassed to mention to anybody. As a student pilot I listened to the experienced pilots talking about their accidents and near misses and saying that you learn more from others' incidents than in manuals. I remember naively saying at the time that I don't want to learn that way but I now know that they knew what they were talking about. From my experiences I know that when you are faced with a situation and have to make split second decisions, despite what the manual or any checklist says, you focus on the immediate job at hand and that is to land and stop with the least damage to yourself and your trike. So well done John and I really hope there is no serious damage to the Beautiful Seductive Temptress.
Many thanks Louis! Greatly appreciated.

I will be making a return flight to you soon . . . . getting back in the saddle, so to speak! (^^)
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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Big-D » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:25 pm

Hey John, glad you OK

I watched the video of your landing and can't critisize it at all, you werent too fast or very far off the mark for that matter - The wet runway obviously the major problem

As for GT's and short runway's - Not my cup of tea. The GT can land quite short as TC mentions with the brakes on both back wheels too, but in wet conditions we probably would have had the same problem and would have approached a little faster too

I personally would not land there but will come fly over some time

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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby John.com » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:55 pm

Big-D wrote:Hey John, glad you OK

I watched the video of your landing and can't critisize it at all, you werent too fast or very far off the mark for that matter - The wet runway obviously the major problem

As for GT's and short runway's - Not my cup of tea. The GT can land quite short as TC mentions with the brakes on both back wheels too, but in wet conditions we probably would have had the same problem and would have approached a little faster too

I personally would not land there but will come fly over some time

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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Madman » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:13 pm

:lol: ## ## ##

John,tho not funny at the time...my tummy is sore and I have tears in my eyes of laughing..the vid is awesome..woohoooo....low and slow on approach n cut mags on touch down ## ## ##

Flip..this is one for the bar like Bundy said....love it..face first in the bush...Bushwhacker John for sure ##

Oh man,I can watch that over and over ## ## ##

Don't you wish there was a wire across threshold of runway and you had an arresting hook... ## puff

I think we should start a thread for all the funny landing mishaps...emphasis on funny,no point we laugh and the dude's aerie is trashed ##

Nice one John,I learned alot from this...the GT's rear breaks here would have caused a handbrake turn effect.. :lol: ##

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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby Madman » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:12 pm

John,

Let me know if you planning on going there again,would like to join you ##

In this type of situation,what would be the best cure...I know I would freak knowing I cannot stop...haha..I know the feeling,lucky there was nothing to hit..just ran off the runway as I was carrying too much speed :oops:


Live and learn...thanx again for sharing John s023


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Re: Coffee at Jakkalsdans

Postby John.com » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:51 pm

Madman wrote:John,

Let me know if you planning on going there again,would like to join you ##

In this type of situation,what would be the best cure...I know I would freak knowing I cannot stop...haha..I know the feeling,lucky there was nothing to hit..just ran off the runway as I was carrying too much speed :oops:


Live and learn...thanx again for sharing John s023

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