Enkel sitplek gyro onder R 100 000

[THI]

JetRanger, you are quick with your avatar!

It was taken at the weekends airshow at Vredendal!

[Gyronaut]

Hi Llewellyn,

No, The avatar was taken at Vredendal yesterday at the fly-in.
Quite per chance the M24 and the Sycamore ended up parking next to each other!!



By the way... I couldnt agree with you more! First you master the machine... then you share it with others, then you use it to expand your horizons to venture into the unknown (usually one man one machine with other like-minded folk).

As for the M24 and Sycamore.... Photo opportunity I couldn't miss of course!
Soon they will both be mine!

[Gyronaut]

THI?? How come I didn't meet you.... or did I and didn't know that you were THE THI??

Help me here bru?

Rgds

Len

[THI]

THI?? How come I didn't meet you.... or did I and didn't know that you were THE THI??

Help me here bru?

Rgds

Len

I hovered around the gyro’s a bit, (off course!) but unfortunately we did not meet. I must admit my mood wasn’t the best…..I drove in!

As soon as I have my wings I definitely would like to visit all the airfields in the W-Cape and meet all my fellow gyronauts!

The Sycamore is looking good! Much bigger in real life.

[Gyronaut]

Pity that, I would have liked to meet you.
Oh well, next time!
Yes, you'd be most welcome at FAFK and Morningstar. I look forward to meeting you.

Rgds

Len

[MPL Pilot]

Hi Low Level

Net jou naam spreek al boekdele!

Pierre al die ouens wat 550k + vir 'n gyro kan bekostig en nog nie in 'n Sycamore gevlieg het nie, sal jou uit my voorstel uit praat, maar kom gesels met my by Rhino. Ek kan vir jou aan 'n Sycamore voorstel teen 'n baie bekostigbare prys - < 200k - en jy kan 'n passasier vat terwyl jy spaar.
Ek wil net uitvind, skynbaar is die Sycamore n swaarder gyro as die MT-03, wat sal die specs wees? Enjin groote, empty weight, Gross weight, Alum of comp rotor?
Hoe vlieg n swaarder gyro? na my mening behoort dit meer stabiel te wees in wind, ens. Aan die anderkant stadiger om te reageer op stok insette, soos earies op flight sim.
Maak die all up weight van n gyro nie saak soos met delta wings wat 450 kg max is nie.

Dankie

Pierre

[Low Level]

Ek wil net uitvind, skynbaar is die Sycamore n swaarder gyro as die MT-03

Hoe vlieg n swaarder gyro? na my mening behoort dit meer stabiel te wees in wind, ens. Aan die anderkant stadiger om te reageer op stok insette

Hi Pierre

Ek gee syfers om gekorrigeer te word, want daar is bietjie verskille rondom die syfers gepubliseer. MT03,ELA, Magni lee gewig is almal in die orde van 250 kg en Sycamore 380 kg en mauw is 550 kg en 590 kg onderskeidelik. Sycamore is baie swaarder op die stok maar is meer stabiel, veral op take-off en landing.

Ongelukkig vergelyk ons nie appels met appels nie. Die nuwe generasie gyros is obviously beter in terme van gewig en hantering en spoed, maar vir dit wat jy betaal en kry, is die Sycamore ver voor. Ek self weeg 100kg, en het al 110kg passasier opgetel by Rhino park. Ek klim dan nie teen 1000ft/min nie, maar ek bly in die lug. Ek vlieg oral saam, en ja my cruise is in die orde van 80 mph, maar ek land hoogstens vyf minute na die vinnige gyros op 'n lang trip. Ek kan 90-95 mph vlieg, maar dan WERK daai Rotax, en ek hou nie daarvan nie en hy VREET petrol. Dan is daar ook die opsie van die deure vir die winter - wat ek nog nooit gebruik het nie - en die dak, dus brand die son nie my lippe rooi nie.

Aangesien ek swaarder vlieg moet my power management net bietjie beter wees maar my brandstofverbruik is dieselfde as die ander gyros - ek dink die aerodinamika van die Sycamore is effens beter.

Enjin groote, empty weight, Gross weight, Alum of comp rotor?

Sycamores vlieg ook met die 914 alhoewel daar is wat Subaru engines in het. Na my mening maak die rotor opgradering 'n baie groter verskil as 'n groter engine. Die 29 ft rotor is baie meer beperk t.o.v. lift. Ek het 'n 31 ft rotor op en dit maak al die verskil in die wêreld.

Die kort en die lank is - ek sou nie gyro gevlieg het as ek R500k + moes uithaal nie - ek het dit nie, maar ongeag, was ek nog nie een dag spyt oor my keuse nie. Die Sycamore vlieg so goed soos enige ander gyro. Iteendeel - ek het 11 ure op 'n ELA, en ek dink regtig as ek moes kies en beide het dieselfde gekos, is die kans goed dat ek weer my Sycamore sou gekoop het. Ek het nou nog nie serious cross country gevlieg nie, maar die gemiddelde 200 myl trippies, is spoed nie vir my 'n krisis nie - ek geniet die vlug - 70, 80, 90 mph - who cares ? Ek het Groblersdal toe en terug gevlieg saam 'n Thunderbird teen 55-60 mph - en dit was great.

Ek herhaal Sycamore het sy beperkinge, dus as jy dit kan bekostig, koop slim. Al die trikers op microlighters wil waarskynlik GT450's vlieg, maar baie is gelukkig met hulle Windlasses, Aquilas ens. want hulle vlieg.

[Trikenut]

Low Level, do you think you could translate that for me? My afrikaans is nie so goed nie!

[mak]

Trikenut

I will try: Low Level wrote: The Sycamore is a great gyro at an even better price.

One big advantage of the sycamore, the passenger enjoy the flight a lot more than the other open gyros. Unfortunately Tinkerbell doesn't miss her turn to fly and I need to take the back seat in the Ela ever so often and on most days it is not fun in the back, due to wind, not the pilot. Had the courage once to fly with Low Level and found it a lot less windy (without doors) and enjoyable with more space in the back.

[Trikenut]

Thanks Mak!

[MPL Pilot]

Dankie, Low Level.

[Gyronaut]

The Sycamore is a great gyro at an even better price.

Hear-hear!


Now the secret is out... There are a couple of Sycamores available at less than the 914 engine is worth

350 hours on mine so far, with several long-distance flights done and I am keeping it! I love my Sycamore in spite of what anyone may have to say about it. Chicks dig it

Len

[Grumpy]

Chicks dig it
Len

Whats an ugly old man like you still worrying about what 'chicks dig'?

[Sukkelaar]

Grumpy maybe we should get ourselves one then we also might pick-up some chicks

regards

[Jabbanaught]

Chicks dig it
Len

Whats an ugly old man like you still worrying about what 'chicks dig'?

Grumps i think he is going to You ,