Banking Scams

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Banking Scams

Postby MILO » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:46 am

I know we have covered this previously, but its still going on & getting more sophisticated. :roll:
Below are events that happened to Ingrid (reputable, this is not chain mail)
"This has personally just happened to me. Yesterday I received notification on my cell phone of a deposit into my ABSA account of R82 000. I could not work out who would have deposited it, only a reference J002. At midday yesterday I received a call from John Ndlovu from "South African Receiver of Revenue" stating that they had erroneously deposited a VAT Return of R82 000 into my bank account, Reference J002 and that they needed me to reverse this payment as it should have done to TLB Towers. They faxed through to me a very official looking letter with all the information and their banking details at ABSA. Last night I went into my banking to do the transfer but decided to print a bank statement first. I saw that the R82 000 was in my account but still "uncleared". Gut feelings were quite strong, so I did not reverse the amount but waited till this morning to phone my bank. They could not identify who the deposit came from. I then asked to be transferred to the risk/fraud division and explained everything to them. The ABSA investigators phoned me a short while ago to let me know that this was a scam, the bank account that I was to transfer into was a personal account with no funds in presently. They also expect that the cheque deposited into my account will be a stolen cheque and will bounce and they would reverse it in a few days. This means that would have "paid back" the money into someone's private account, :evil: they would have withdrawn the money, and then the cheque would have bounced, leaving me with R82 000 less in my account.
I have been advised that this is happening with people saying that they are from "SARS", "PEP Stores", TELKOM, Water and Electricity Municipal Departments etc. Do not pay anything into any account and contact your bank immediately."
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby DarkHelmet » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:23 am

I had it twice, once for R45,000 and once for R32,000 - I know who my clients are and who to expect money from. I always phone the bank when I get a suspect deposit like this.
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Thatchman » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:34 am

Ja this scam has been around for some time.

I got one for R80 000 at work. They claimed they made a trf to our account in error yet the bank statement showed a cheque deposit. I played the guy for a while pretending to be co-operating with him. When I finally said that I had phoned SARS and they had given me permission to just deduct it from my next paye payment, he then said that for audit purposes it needed to be refunded seperately.

Thats when I told him to go away making rapid jerking movements.
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Tumbleweed » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:22 am

Had a legit cheque we issued to the SARS be banked into a SAMS account. They traced it to a Nedbank dept who were 'washing' cheques and have buddies trying to push through someone's account.
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Dirk van Dort » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:47 pm

I think the banks have something to answer for......what about all the FICA requirements before opening an account. Even as a 50 year customer of my bank, they still keep asking for I.D. and proof of residence on a regular basis. So just how do these scammers manage to open an account with no funds in them, and then the banks claim they do not know who the account holder is.....makes you think, does'nt it. the biggest scammers are the banks themselves.
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Nkwazi » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:39 pm

the biggest scammers are the banks themselves.[/quote]
Quite a strong statement Dirk.
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Dirk van Dort » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:07 pm

Quite right nkwazi, and i have strong reasons for saying that too, as one who feels ripped off, i could not let the opportunity pass.
Sorry, i let my emotions and anger get the better of me and should not hang it out on this forum. Suffice it to say the banking institutions do not have my respect or admiration.
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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Gyronaut » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:25 pm

I'm with Dirk on this one.

Gross generalisation, and there are exceptions I know but I have never had a positive experience with our banks.
In fact, I have been scammed with internal co-operation of a bank official and I have had a nasty business experience with the banking cartel that exists in this country - even though they consistently deny it.

Lets see what the latest banking report reveals, if it doesn't get squashed yet again.

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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Chunky » Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:54 pm

I had my company Debit card cloned and had 10k drawn out three weeks ago over 2 days. They first drew out 5k at 11:55 pm on the saturday and then another 5k at 12:05 the sunday morning.

I contacted Absa about this, stopped all of my cards including my personal cards. They are still busy with the investigation but it does not look good. Somehow when they did clone the card they must have seen either myself or my partner put in the pin code so its going to be very difficult to prove it was not a legitamate withdrawl.

Apparently the target company accounts as they know people dont normaly check their business accounts over the weekend. Luckily I was waiting for a big cheque to be deposited and noticed.

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Re: Banking Scams

Postby Gyronaut » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:29 am

You have to wonder what the banks are so desperate to hide!?

See http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/d ... 86_2449489

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