Part 62 - Type Classification

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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:15 pm

Stephan van Tonder wrote: Oh and by the way - LSA doesn't have to have fixed gear. It can have retracts and in-flight adjustable prop as long as it stays under 140 knots and 600 kg all up and 45 mph stall. Conventional microlight must have fixed gear. I'll try and find that tech definition again of the planes.
Please confirm. All indications I had was 120 and no retract or VP which are considered complex systems...
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby Stephan van Tonder » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:20 pm

Ah - here it is.

SCHEDULE 17

17. PROPOSAL TO AMEND SUB-PART 01 OF PART 24 OF THE SA-CATS-NTCA

17.1 Proposal to amend the index of Part 24 by the addition of the following

P. Light Sport Aeroplanes

1. Design standards

2. Classification parameters

MOTIVATION to allow for light sport aeroplanes

17.2 Proposal to amend sub-part 01.2.A of Part 24 of the CATS by the addition of the following

24.01.2.A.2 (k) ASTM standards on Light Sport Aircraft

MOTIVATION to include the FAA standards for light sport aeroplanes

17.2 Proposal to amend sub-part 01.2 of Part 24 of the CATS by the addition of the following

P. Light Sport Aeroplanes

24.01.2.P.1 Design standards

Non-type certified light sport aeroplanes shall meet the design criteria of either amateur-built aircraft or production built aircraft.

24.01.2.P.2 Classification parameters

(1) For an aeroplane to be classified as a light sport aeroplane, the following parameters need to be met:



(a) Maximum take-off mass of:

(i) 600 kilograms for land planes
(ii) 650 kg for amphibian and sea planes

(b) Maximum stall speed or minimum steady flight speed at maximum take-off mass of 45 Knots (no flaps – Vs1) at standard atmospheric conditions at sea level at most critical C of G

(c) Maximum air speed in level flight with maximum continuous power (Vh) of not more than 140 Knots CAS under standard atmospheric conditions at sea level

(d) Two place maximum

(e) Single reciprocating engine

(f) Unpressurized cabin

(2) For the purpose of establishing conformity with sub-paragraph (1) (a), the following payloads are to be included:

(a) 84 kg per seat,
(b) Oil and other liquids in the engine as required for flight,
(c) The lesser of full fuel load or 60 kg,
(d) luggage mass as allowed by the manufacturer,
(e) Safety rescue system if one is fitted,
(f) all standard and additional equipment and systems as fitted
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby Stephan van Tonder » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:35 pm

I must sya that actually nowhere do I see anything about maximum empty weight. Not even on the current microlight spec. It's all about all up weight.

Current SA-CATS-NTCA part 24

E. MICROLIGHT AEROPLANES
24.01.2.E.1 Design standards
Non-type certificated microlight aeroplanes shall meet the design criteria of
either amateur-built aircraft or production-built aircraft.
24.01.2.E.2 Classification perimeters
(1) For an aeroplane to be classified as a microlight aeroplane, the following
perimeters need to be met:
(a) minimum flying speed at maximum take-off mass to be less than
65 km/h;
(b) maximum take-off mass of –
(i) 300 kg for a single-seater landplane;
(ii) 330 kg for a single-seater amphibian or seaplane;
(iii) 450 kg for a two-seater landplane; or
(iv) 495 kg for a two-seater amphibian or seaplane.
(2) For the purposes of establishing conformity with subparagraph (1)(b),
the following payloads are to be included:
(a) Per seat: 84 kg.
(b) The lesser of full fuel load or –
(i) 15 kg in the case of a single-seater; or
(ii) 22 kg in the case of a two-seater.
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby Morph » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:46 pm

Agreed, but CAA enforced the 260kg most of this year but it is not written anywhere

They took 2 X 84kg Pilot and Pax plus 22kg fuel and you get 190kg

450-190 = 260kg.

This was then enforced as the max empty weight by calculation.
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby Stephan van Tonder » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:49 pm

Ah - there you go - thanks Morph. I knew it came from somewhere but just couldn't find anything.
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby wildthing » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:25 pm

Hi All.

Sorry I could not make it to East London andCape Town as I had to rush back to JHB.
Part 62 with all the CARS, CATS, Appendices and Forms will be Posted on the RAASA website within the next two to three weeks, all info needed is contained within these documents.
If there are any questions or suggestions we will provide a link on the Website and welcome your input as we expect to come across questions that we may have overlooked or simply not thought about.

The Website is being developed as we speak www.raasa.co.za and will be populated with relevant info ASAP.
I am busy with a multimedia CD that will be distributed to MISASA and other sections in January 2009.

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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby swiftprop » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:24 pm

Certainly sounds better than the USA Sport Pilot Category which has more limitations.
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby ZS-NEL » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:47 pm

wildthing wrote: Sorry I could not make it to East London andCape Town as I had to rush back to JHB.
Now Pierre, tell us why you had to rush back to JHB........ (^^) Congratulations with the new baby, mate! (^^)
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Re: Part 62 - Type Classification

Postby wildthing » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:35 pm

Thanks.
Still trying to catch up on some sleep but I think that this wont happen soon.
Man I thought that I got exited over a new toy but this is even better.
Now I need figure out how soon I can take her flying with me.

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