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Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby Learjet » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:33 pm

Presume everyone is aware of this? I contacted ICASA this morning to find out how to go about changing my radio call-sign registration when I reeceive my new reg from CAA - seems ICASA are unaware of this and less than impressed as all their aeronautical radio licence filing is based on ac call-signs... going to be a big headache for them... :roll:
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REGISTRATION OF AIRCRAFT

REGISTRATION LETTER ALLOCATIONS FOR ROTORCRAFT

The South African Civil Aviation Authority is presently involved in a process to effect improvements to facilitate aviation
functioning and development in addition to its prime mandate of ensuring an acceptable level of aviation safety in the
Republic, as set Out in Section 3 of the South African Civil Aviation Act, 1998 No. 40 of 1998).

It has been brought to our attention that there have been certain difficulties faced by the rotorcraft fraternity in relation
to the assignment of registration letters. The purpose of this AIC is to confirm a recent policy decision reached
pertaining to such rotorcraft registration letter allocations.

1. The registration letters to be forall rotorcraft as from date ofthis AiC with with either H or
R following the national ZS or ZU identity.
2. Rotorcraft owners who have previously been allocated registration letters beginning with letters other than H
or R will be offered the opportunity to have such registration letters rescinded and replaced without any
to the SACAA, until 31 December 2008, letter allocations with either H or
R following the national ZS or ZU identity.

3. It is recommended that rotorcraft owners make use of the above dispensation in order to ensure.
standardization of registration mark identities for all rotorcraft in order to facilitate an easy identification of
rotorcraft by
4. Applicants for the registration of rotorcraft wHi not be charged the special registration fee when issued the
registration letters Hand R in sequence. However, helicopter registration applications which are requested
to be out of sequence, will be liable for the current R2000 special registration fee.
5, AIl owners wing aircraft that have been assigned registration letter allocations beginning with H or
R will be offered the opportunity to have such registration letters rescinded and replaced by any other
acceptable and available registration letter allocation, without any payment to the SACAA, until the

31st December 2008.

Since there have been numerous H and R registration letter issued to fIxed wing aircraft we
caution that no assumption is to be made that an aircraft with the call-sign beginning with H or R is
positively a rotorcraft.

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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby johnht » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:22 pm

Hi Learjet

I was certainly unaware of this! In your understanding, could one select a Rxx callsign and chose the 'xx' - or will this simply be allocated by CAA?

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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby Low Level » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:49 am

Learjet wrote:4. Applicants for the registration of rotorcraft wHi not be charged the special registration fee when issued the
registration letters Hand R in sequence. However, helicopter registration applications which are requested
to be out of sequence, will be liable for the current R2000 special registration fee.
johnht wrote:could one select a Rxx callsign and chose the 'xx' - or will this simply be allocated by CAA?
If I understand point 4 correctly, one can select a callsign.
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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby mikemat » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:46 pm

[quote="Learjet"]Presume everyone is aware of this? I contacted ICASA this morning to find out how to go about changing my radio call-sign registration when I reeceive my new reg from CAA - seems ICASA are unaware of this and less than impressed as all their aeronautical radio licence filing is based on ac call-signs... going to be a big headache for them... :roll:

See also thread dated 27/5 and entitled "Rotorwing re-register H & R"
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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby Condor » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:31 pm

johnht wrote:Hi Learjet

I was certainly unaware of this! In your understanding, could one select a Rxx callsign and chose the 'xx' - or will this simply be allocated by CAA?

John (ZU-JHT)
As I understand the pilot who have previously paid their R2000,00 to get "customised" callsigns will have the oppurtunity to select a new ZU-Rxx where xx is from the available list at that time.

All other aircraft will be allocated by CAA.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby Learjet » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:13 pm

My new CAA certificate of Registration arrived today :?
ZU-FTA is now ZU-RDL Apologies in advance to those having to hear my seemingly confused radio calls, "This is Foxtrot Tang.. aggg correction..Romeo Delta..." for the next few weeks whilst I get used to it! (**)
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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby Condor » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:30 pm

Just returned from CAA and since the plane is registered in both my name and my wife’s, she also has to sign the documents.

1. Compulsory

At this stage the re-registration of rotorcraft is not compulsory, but rotorcraft owners are given the opportunity to re-register. According to the officials there are no plans at the moment to make it compulsory, however they warn that who knows what will happen next year.

2. Process

The process is made up into four steps.

a. You have to cancel the original registration. Complete form CAR47A, pages 2, 7 and 9. (see link http://www.caa.co.za/resource%20center/ ... CAR47A.pdf)

b. You need to apply for a new registration. Complete the same form but this time pages 2, 5 and 9.

Up to end December the above process will be free of charge.

c. By this time you Authority to Fly is no longer valid and you need to apply for a new one. I am not sure if a new Authority to Fly will be issued free of charge, valid until the original expiry date.

Mr. Mike Cathrow (very helpful person) paged through my file and recommended that I make sure the following documentation is on record at CAA:

- Valid Weight and Balance Certificate
- Approved Flight Manual
- Colour picture of my aircraft

d. Now your Frequency Spectrum Licence has also expired, because your old plane does not exist anymore. Write (or Fax 011-5663346) an e-mail to Mr Johannes Koae, including a copy of your current licence with a letter stating that CAA “forced “ you to re-register your aircraft. At this stage they are not clear if a new licence will be issued free of charge or after payment of the R100,00 fee.

3. I met the answer to our problems today. Her name is Colette van Zyl. She used to work for CAA, but deals in aircraft registration for a job now. I think she wrote the procedure, so well she knows them, and she knows everybody at CAA. For a reasonable fee she will go to CAA and sort out your paperwork.
And where do you contact this angel: Cell 0827837051 or vza@worldonline.co.za

Please add to my experience so we can make this as painless as possible.
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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby zu ebl » Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:33 pm

Done mine last week,ZU-EBL now ZU-RWS " customized" call sign, cost R2000-00,
now only needs to change my ICCASA paper work, then i'm done,must also get use to it.

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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby johnht » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:21 pm

I went to CAA on Friday to apply for the change to "Rxx", but was most disappointed to learn that I could not choose a new registration without paying ANOTHER R2000 (previously paid when I first registerd my 'baby'. I was then asked why I wanted to change the registration, and explained the 'CAA requirement'. I was told that changing to an "R" prefix is NOT mandatory (yet).
My issue is that I have already paid for a 'choice of registration', and that I will be obliged to pay again or simply accept the next in sequence (and in all probability forfeit my R2000!) I'm hoping to get some more clarity tomorrow (Monday).

Has anyone a similar experience or situation?

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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby Gyronaut » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:06 pm

As I understand it John, if you paid for a nominated registration originally it carries over and you can nominate again, this was Dave Lehr's experience and he got RDL. I didnt have a nominated registration so took potluck and ZU-EDN became ZU-RDR which I am quite happy with.

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Re: Registration letter allocations to Rotorcraft - CAA AIC

Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:12 pm

Or just keep your current reg... I am keeping mine. (I enjoy being cleared for the pad every once in a while :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: )
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