Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

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Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby Uncle Spud Murphy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:13 pm

Greetings Gentlemen,

Or if you prefer, 'vriendlik groete' a nice introduction that I learned from JetRanger.

As some of you are now aware, I tend to place my feet in Oliphant k@k from time to time. Well, 'verskoon my' but I may just be about to do it again, so start walking Mr Oliphant and have a dump here and there for me to tread in. By the way oh knight's of the sky. The only reason I drop myself into the proverbial is because I care and when I care I do something about it and I care about this post because it includes you all and I care about you too.

Short while ago, we had a post on covering the cost's of running the web site. I suggested then that we, as a group of Microlighters, should consider paying a monthly contribution by DD and I explained why. I still consider it to be a good idea so I am loath to give it up until I am told too in a direct manner. ## ## s067 s068 s071

Flying can be dangerous, if it wasn't then you wouldn't have rules to follow and people to guide you and watch over you like Leprechaun. JetRanger has also passed a lot of information to me to read before I start to learn and I am very grateful for his interest. He said "If it helps you to fly safe, then it's worth it. Do your ground checks. Complete your pre-flight checks etc etc. Check, check, check and then go flying, but even then things can go horribly wrong.

Even the most experienced make mistakes and when it happens, it effects many things in the Pilots life. I won't list them because you don't need me to remind you, do you? You have all witnessed or experienced the pain of another, what I am suggesting is support. Financial support at times of need for fellow microlighters from NSEW when the k@k hits the fan, or in this case, the prop. Now we are finally getting there and all the different emotions that humans feel are starting to rise to the surface. Let's be positive guys.

When your machine hits the ground when you don't want it too in the UK, the chap in the green paramedic suit comes to your aid and there is no charge. I repeat gentlemen, there is no charge. Whether you end up in traction or just break a toe, there is no charge. I have the utmost respect for Ranger and Andre even though we have never met but consider please or as you say 'asseblief' the medical bills that these two colleagues of our's are facing and god forbid, any one of us could face the same at anytime regardless of how good a Pilot you are. (**) (**) (**)

We could join together and create a fund. A Medical Fund if you wish to call it that and it wouldn't cost much. Bottle of klipdrift once a month or even less at R50. Before the keyboards start rattling away, consider this. You have a Forum where you get together. You exchange idea's, you help each other. You arrange 'Fly In's' 'Breakfast In's and whatever In's you enjoy doing, in other words you support each other in doing what you enjoy doing. All I am suggesting is that we help other pilots in need to get back to flying over Africa without them or their Families having to face crippling medical bills.

Fifty Rand a month is not a lot on it's own Guy's, but could be a Million Rand collectively.

Nothing I can do now but hold the stick firmly, brace the rudder bars and weather the storm if I have made an error of judgement:

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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby grostek » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 pm

Hi Uncle Spud Murphy,

This idea has great merit, it is just the sort of thing a grassroots type organisation would do.

What do the rest of the members of this forum say?

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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby AndyG » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:24 pm

I say great but it certainly needs to be managed properly. There needs to be fund managers etc, founding statements blah blah blah.
I would contribute willingly but the legal aspects need to be explored.

Hey the lawyer/pilots need to let us know

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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby Gyronaut » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:28 pm

Nice idea Spud. Most of us have Medical Aid/Hospital Insurance and I think we are obliged to have public indemnity insurance. A benevolent fund would certainly help in the event of an accident but I agree it has to be managed well.

Lawyer/Pilots? Strange concept that... (virgin/hookers?) :roll: I have always considered pilots honest and trustworthy (**) KIDDING, good lawyers can take a ribbing and deserve it sometimes. :lol:
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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby skybound® » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:49 pm

Uncle Plud Scdurphy - your intentions are from the heart - and that is a good thing. vhpy

Being the mind sided person I am (I have no emotions :wink: ), is I have two doubts. First whether there would be enough mass here to start a fund of any worthy significance. Second doubt is the rules of the fund would probably always be up for debate. For instance in the one accident reported here - every one was sympathetic etc, but when official report came out, the pilot was breaking the law at the time. So in that instance the fund may have made a contribution to a law breaker. Would this be acceptable - that would probably be too much to debate and I could see many collars doing overtime.

Anyway thats my un-emotional 2c - and I want my 2c back please when you done :wink: :lol:
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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby Gyronaut » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:04 pm

Incidently, NESW had me guessing for a moment... I have always believed that the word "NEWS" was derived from North East West and South but have just learned the contrary.

From Wiki

Etymology : NEWS
Plural of obsolete noun "new", meaning "something that is new"; not, as is sometimes assumed, an acronym for "North, East, West, South" or anything else.


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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby Uncle Spud Murphy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:45 pm

Yep!! Point taken skybound. As with everything the thought must be thought through, but don't you guy's have a saying? Make a plan.

Just because it's the pilots fault, do we so no to support? The pilot has had an accident and his medi care does not cover all the damage done. Do we sit down then and start having endless debates about whether we support him/her or not. I can voice an opinion now because this is about aviation on an aviation Forum and it's about when aviation goes wrong.

Sorry mate, you should have turned right not left. You shoulda done this, you shoulda done that, no payment OK!!

There hurt and there in pain. Help them. Don't rustle papers and have ###@*" debates about it. You pay in, you benefit by it because that is what it's there for.

By the way skybound and with respect. Whats with the Plud Scdmurphy my friend??

Explanation of Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW. Simple - Support Microlighters North East South West of SA because someone local to you is in need of support.

I know there are going to be problems in organising a 'Medical Fund' but I think it's a good idea and if anyone can make a plan to make it work, South Africans can. Bottom line is, if you want me to shut up about this thread, then I will. I will fight for anything that is worth fighting for, but not for a lost cause so if you want ## s067 -xX

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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby Tumbleweed » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:56 pm

Perhaps a simpler idea.

Not all will agree to the 'claim' criteria, much less a regular payment.

How about someone authentic posts "XYZ has had an accident, no medical cover/ lying outside gov hospital- no doctor, or sole provider so can't provide for family for a while"

Those with the means at the time, unconditional, take it further.
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Re: Support Your Local Microlighter - NESW

Postby Uncle Spud Murphy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:21 pm

[quote="Tumbleweed"]Perhaps a simpler idea.

Not all will agree to the 'claim' criteria, much less a regular payment.

How about someone authentic posts "XYZ has had an accident, no medical cover/ lying outside gov hospital- no doctor, or sole provider so can't provide for family for a while"

Those with the means at the time, unconditional, take it further.


Yes Sir. I agree with you also Tumbleweed, but may I suggest that I doubt if the unfortunate soul in your scenario would be flying in the first place and what is wrong with a regular contribution? It doesn't need to be much if we all work and plan together. Bottle of Klipdrift a month maybe. That's not much to ask for is it and it could grow into a tidy sum that could really do something positive. K@K, there's enough sadness in this lovely world of ours that we fly around in, lets do something good and find a way to make this work instead of looking for negatives and that's no disrespect intended young man. We all have a right to our view and I respect that right. When I am wrong you will see me shout the loudest. ^*^^

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