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Postby skybound® » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:53 pm

The winds of change - she be a blowing.

From some snippets I believe that there is some normality returning to our environment.

Some things that I have heard second hand, but from a reliable source indicates good news for us NTCA:

-Factory visits for new types being brought into SA likely to disappear
-CAA not interpreting 24.03.1 as we have been - another example found where AP has written in bold that crank well past it's recomended replacement (according to schedule) - was something like 2000 hours - ATF was issued, and as long as AP has dilligently done the inspection -CAA are happy.
-Acknowledges issue with owner not being able to perform maintenance and CAA unlikely to oppose amendment to have that changed. So will only have to live with that until amendments promulgated.
-CAA will enusre that NTCA controlled on a more logical basis.

So looks like our quiet diplomatic boys in the background have done their wonders for us. :D :D :D :D

It is great news that 24.03.1 is not being implemented in the way we feared it might, only side note is please can it be amended/reworded to reflect it's actual intent.

I too am beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. :wink: :lol: :D
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Postby Wargames » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:03 pm

Hi Skybound,

Does this mean that I can not do maintenance untill ammendment is made? Or will it be overseen if i did it.

This is really good news.

I heard that there is some changes in the licencing of MPL as well. Do you know any of this?

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Postby RudiGreyling » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:13 pm

skybound ® wrote:The winds of change - she be a blowing.
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I too am beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. :wink: :lol: :D
That is what I've been trying to tell you along between the lines and between the snippets of information I posted! Glad you see it!

Just beware Eskom load shedding and turning off that light of hope in the end of the tunnel :twisted:

happened 5 times this week to me...load shedding!

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Postby skybound® » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:24 pm

Wargames wrote:Hi Skybound,

Does this mean that I can not do maintenance untill ammendment is made? Or will it be overseen if i did it.

This is really good news.

I heard that there is some changes in the licencing of MPL as well. Do you know any of this?

Thank you.
Cant answer (or dare not) the bit whether it would be overlooked. Perhaps if you have a good relationship with your AP - he may overlook it in the meantime.

There were some changes on MPL licencing but nothing too drastic or to get overly concerned. Pretty much ops normal. Think there was a minor increase in the number of hours you are required to fly to stay current - think went from 3 hours to 5 or something like that. Part 62 is the bit to read. Been a while since I read it.
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Postby Wargames » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:28 pm

Thanks,

I'm not a big reader of the law. Did that when I was writing exams but nothing since.

Thank you for the help.
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Postby skybound® » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:18 am

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skybound ® wrote:The winds of change - she be a blowing.
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I too am beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. :wink: :lol: :D
That is what I've been trying to tell you along between the lines and between the snippets of information I posted! Glad you see it!

Just beware Eskom load shedding and turning off that light of hope in the end of the tunnel :twisted:

happened 5 times this week to me...load shedding!

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Luckily only rated for day VFR so must be sunlight with no reliance on Eskom :wink: :lol:
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Postby Wargames » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:53 pm

I always knew that something good would come out of this.

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Postby skybound® » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:18 pm

Seems to be some short term (I hope) contradictory information under the MISASA forum regarding as how things stand at this point in time.
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Postby Wargames » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Hi Guys,

Is there someone who can give the latest news in plain english. The debate has not changed much during the past month or so.

Here is my questions:

Is the CAA going to enforce the mandatory crank change every 300 hours :?: :?:

Is the CAA going to ammend the part where only an AP, AMO can do maintenance on an aircraft :?: :?:

Please can someone shed some light here!! I'm afraid that eskom has once again let me down.

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Postby Chunky » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:26 pm

[quote="Wargames"]Hi Guys,

Is there someone who can give the latest news in plain english. The debate has not changed much during the past month or so.

Here is my questions:

Is the CAA going to enforce the mandatory crank change every 300 hours :?: :?:

Is the CAA going to ammend the part where only an AP, AMO can do maintenance on an aircraft :?: :?:

Please can someone shed some light here!! I'm afraid that eskom has once again let me down.

Regards,[/quote]

Question 1: Yes

Question 2: No

Also another big problem on its way. Microlight weights. From 1st June 2008 the weight issue will be enfoced.

If over 260 kg's empty or 450 kgs MTOW you will have to fly with a PPL. Now this will become a serious issue as the same person also told me there isnt a single Cheetah that falls into the Microlight category.

I can see plenty people flying illegaly from 1 June 2008.
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Postby Wargames » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:06 pm

Thanks Chunky,

If what you're saying is true, then where did all the other info come from??

Sure does not sound like good news.

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Postby Rudix » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:21 pm

I went to the CAA yesterday (22/01/2008) for a ATF renewal on my Rans. I wanted to do it myself, rather than my normal "modus operandi" of paying someone to do it since I wanted to ask a few questions.

Firstly, the 618 (300h TBO according to Rotax) on the Rans is now sitting on just over 400h with the original crank. My AP signed it out without a problem (Made comments about a well maintained plane that made me feel good as I do all the maintenance myself WITHOUT supervision.) He did check the engine well, like he checked every nut/bolt/weld and hinge on the plane.

At the CAA I had to "walk the walk" up the stairs to go see the guys....

I was told in no uncertain terms that since my AP signed out the plane they will issue an ATF BUT, and this is the big BUT, since the crank was over 300h both the AP (he signed it out) and myself (I maintained it) would be in trouble if there should be an accident that could be traced to the crank, and even if it could not be traced to the crank !

I also asked about the maintenance issue and the reply was that it should be done under supervision or at least signed off. I did not press the point but did get the info on how to become an AP, something I wanted to do anyway.

In general I had a good chat and got the impression that the guys are trying to help us and are not trying to be difficult but the law is the law.

I was told that right now they are more lenient since they are looking at amending the rules, so there is hope.......

Things like AP's loosing their tickets were mentioned, but I think that was more pointing to the guys who simply kick the tyres and pronounce the plane OK.

So, I have a new ATF but one with a BUT !

BTW, the ATF states that I am allowed to overfly buildup areas, but only for take-off and landing.....

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Postby Wargames » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:30 pm

Hi Rudix,

Nice to read some first hand news.

Did they state which laws/rules they are looking at amending??

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Postby Rudix » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:40 pm

Wargames wrote:Hi Rudix,

Nice to read some first hand news.

Did they state which laws/rules they are looking at amending??

Regards,
Hi Wargames,

They are looking at both the 300h issue and the maintenance bit, but I got the impression the maintenance part is here to stay :(

I did not ask about the weight issue, should have, but I need to go back, have another ATF and a new registration to sort out next week.

Lets hope for the best.........
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Postby Wargames » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:47 pm

Good luck. Keep the news coming.

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