Training time: 3 axis MPL vs PPL

[Brian Young]

Who is shouting, all I did was write in CAPs as it seems that smalls is difficult to understand??????? I posted a very simple reply in general and morph took it personal this is a fact that generaly a lot of geuss work an assumption is done on forums by the armchair pilots and this can be very missleading to the new pilots, if you want to make a statment back it up with the part No. and paragraph of the CAR's. or any written matrial from the experts qoute the books name and writer.
AS far as the stress comment I live in the slowveld and theres no rush in Africa man. Let me share with you all I once saw a banner in a very reputable old flying school in the UK it said "Wanabe and Armchair pilots that think they know it all are just a pain in the butt to those pilots who do know it all."
AS far as been rude and this not being AVCom thanks for the reminder!
AS far as the coment to go fly and destress I fly every day weather permitting how about you once a week, once a month, once a year?????

[Morph]

I didn't take it personal, I said if you know better then tell the rest of us. We all need to learn.

BTW I fly about 100 hours a year so I am definately not in the ARMCHAIR arena but I don't want to get into a "mine is bigger than yours" debate.

Now back to the real issue, tell us exactly what the real situation is wrt converting from an MPL 3-axis to a PPL including the medical issues which is what this topic is about.

[Brian Young]

morph dont be so touchy, not everything written on this forum is directed at you, chill out, read some of the other coments and see if you agree with them???? some are plain guess work eg 15 MPL hrs credit to your ppl wrong, 50% of your solo hrs to a maxium of 25 hrs to a higher license.( old part 62 new part 62 should come into effect in January 2008 I will post the part number and page of the CAR and CATS documets where all can read exactly what the law says.
Guessing and assuptions can be very dangerous in flying

[The Agent]

Norht and south I hope wont go to war.

Howzit guys.
Depends on the flying you want to do and what weight cat you want to do.

Me I fly for fun and nothing more.

Chill out in the lowveld mate and Morph look at the mountain bru just dont go there you might get mugged.

[Morph]

It's all so vague. No wonder this sport is in such a mess.

I don't work in guesses and assumptions.

Imagine this is poker, I have a hand of cards that I have played and I am calling you, What is the answer?

[Brian Young]

Microlighting is the bigest growing aviation sport world wide, Microlights number more that one third of all aircraft registered in SA. The mess comes form guess work and assumptions of the self proclaimed astronauts of Microlighting.

[John Young]

Microlighting is the bigest growing aviation sport world wide, Microlights number more that one third of all aircraft registered in SA. The mess comes form guess work and assumptions of the self proclaimed astronauts of Microlighting.

Hello Stirrer,

Brian, if I have read (heard) right, you have some 10 000 hours comprising 5 500 in microlights with the balance split between Gyro’s and 3-Axis.

Man – that’s experience.

There is huge value that you can add on this forum.

Another is Johnyvdl (???) – also has about 10 000 hours – but he only “pops-in occasionally”.

The term “The mess comes from ….” is misleading. Many amateur low hour pilots want to express themselves freely without being criticized. This is where a person like yourself can confirm, correct, modify questions, add tips and tricks, motivate hazards and pitfalls etc.

Wish that we also heard from Johnyvdl (???) more often.

So Stirrer – come and teach – members will sit up and take notice when you “speak”.

Kind regards
John ZU-CIB

[Brian Young]

To all the aviation medical requirements as per the law at this time. Goverment Gazette vol 387 26 September 1997 No. 18286
Aviation Legislation in South Africa volume 2 ( CARS) Personnel Part 67-3 to 67-11
SA - CATS - MR 67.00.2 page 18
I hope this can clear up a few guesses

[Brian Young]

To All, The crediting of flight time of MPL to PPL the law that is still ineffect is the ANR's 1976 Personel logbooks and crediting of flight time page 64
Chapter 8.2 (2) (c)
I hope this clears up a few matters.

[Tumbleweed]

Not all are exposed to interactive A grade instructors, some of which who also don't know all the fundamentals and happily refer you to the CAA.

In the absence of info on the representative body's web page, here is where we ask stupid questions and get mostly variations of the correct answer, all pointing to the correct general direction.

I'd rather interact with willing armchair and newbe pilots than smug arrogant highmilers who don't willingly offer assistance but have the time to criticise.

I'm not referring to anyone who has posted here either.

[Brian Young]

Hi John, yes I have many flying hrs PPl MPL GPL and have been a Instructor for a long time, if any one needs some info on the law they are wellcome to contact me I have all the books and try and stay abrest with all the changers, any one that need some advice on the practical part of flying, can ask and if I can help I will, Im am rated on +/- 60 aircraft
Regards,
Brian

[DieselFan]

Im am rated on +/- 60 aircraft
Regards,
Brian

Shees !!I haven't even been, never mind driven in that many cars!

No wonder comments were made about you being stressed out - as you're on the ground!! unless like some people I know, you access the forum / phone while flying

[Griffin]

To All, The crediting of flight time of MPL to PPL the law that is still ineffect is the ANR's 1976 Personel logbooks and crediting of flight time page 64
Chapter 8.2 (2) (c)
I hope this clears up a few matters.

Thanks Brian. That clears it up.

Now. Does any one out there know how many F...ing MPL hours will be credited towards a PPL????

[Brian Young]

If you go back a few posts you will see I posted it as the law stats it but here it is again for those that only read the last post
50% of your solo ( pilot in command )hrs to a maxium of 25 hrs credit to a higher license. and if anyone whould like me to post this again in a day or so I will gladly do so

[Griffin]