Some flight medical questions answered

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Some flight medical questions answered

Postby Morph » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:58 am

Last night our club had Dr Ashley Stoner give us a talk about the flight Medical and here are some of the things answered.

NOTE: I am not a Doctor so please excuse the spelling

1. High blood pressure
No problem as long as you are controlling it with a daily tablet or diet or exercise

2. Any heart related issues including requiring a stent being inserted. Grounded for 12 months, then a report from your Cardio Surgeon/Specialist is required annually to be submitted to the CAA medical board for revue before they will give you a medical. But there are many people who have had heart attacks and gone back to flying.

3. Stress ECG, not required for Class 4 medical but highly recommended as it is a quick and easy way of early detection of heart disease. He told of a case of a 40year old who 2 years ago was clear and then this year the ECG picked up a slight variation. Dr Stoner immediately sent him to a specialist and they inserted a stent. He says 100% this guy would have had a massive heart attack if they did not pick it up.

4. Diabetes. If you are injecting insulin daily then absolutely no flying ever. The other type i.e. taking a daily tablet or diet/exercise to control it you can fly. He says diabetes has become a very common disease.

5. Mental Illness. Obviously the serious illnesses like Schizophrenia, Bipolar disorder etc would exclude you, but if you are on any form of Anti Depressant then you must be grounded. Most of these courses last about 6 months and then you must be weaned off them. It's not when you are on them that's the problem but the sudden unpredictable personality shift when you miss a tablet or stop taking them that is the big worry. So you will typically be grounded for a year. He talks about a Japan Airlines jumbo crash where the Pilot was suffering from depression and committed suicide, taking 380 people with him.

6. Head trauma. If you have had any accident where you lost consciousness, suffered concussion etc you must tell your Dr immediately. They will then have to do a brain scan to be satisfied that all is well. Any injury resulting in skull fracture, or bleeding on the brain etc will ground you for life. This is because you now stand a very very high risk of developing Epilepsy at any time for the rest of your life.

7. Asthma. If you have to use an inhaler like Ventolin you will not get a medical. Asthma is also exacerbated by stress and we all know sometimes the cockpit is a stressful place to be. Additionally Asthma sufferers have a lower oxygen level in their blood and will suffer from Hypoxia much quicker at altitudes as low as 8000ft. However there are prophylactic preventatives such as Seravent that is taken once daily that fully controls asthma and you can get a flight medical if you are on this medication. You can see the difference on the lung capacity tests and if high enough you will be passed.

8. Eyes. No problem if you wear glasses. If you have particular bad eyes sight that leaves you nearly blind without your glasses you will be required to always carry a spare pair of specs with you. You can also wear contact lenses now without an issue.

9. Colour blindness. No problem but only VFR and no EFIS type systems in the plane.

10. Cholesterol. It won't ground you if higher than 5 but for your own health it is better to control it. Drugs like Lipitor are widely used with almost no side effects.

11. Cancers
11a. Prostrate - will not ground you because it is not a particularly invasive type of cancer. He mentioned a PSA test( :?: ) (instead of the finger up the bum). He says if over 55 have this test done annually and if the PSA measurement starts moving up even though it is below the threshold immediately have this treated. He was talking about a simple dose of antibiotics.

11b. Melanoma. This will ground you for life. He says anyone suffering from this form of cancer stands a very high chance of brain cancer, tumours etc.

11c. Brain tumour. If operated on and successfully removed will ground you for 5 years. After that a brain scan, tests, report from specialist etc will have to be sent to the medical revue board. They might pass you but you will have to submit these test yearly or even more regularly

12. Donating Blood. If you donate blood you need to be grounded for 24 hours to allow your body to replenish itself

13. Anaemia, grounded.

14. If you have bleeding piles/hemorrhoids etc you will be grounded until treated. Apparently this is one of the fastest ways for your body to lose blood and not be able to replenish it quick enough.

15. Ears. Bad hearing will not ground you, you can wear hearing aids or crank your volume on the intercom.
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Postby Slabfish » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:41 am

Interesting stuff,I know a pilot ,MPL , who has the use of only one eye , did Dr Ashly Stoner mention anything about that ?
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Postby Slabfish » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:47 am

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Postby Morph » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:23 pm

No he didn't specifically mention blindness in one eye. You can get a drivers licence that way so why not fly?

I see on CAA that a person with sight in one eye (monocular vision) has the following restrictions
a) When flying in an open cockpit protective goggles must be worn
b) Any accompanying pilot must be made aware of the pilots monocular vision
c) Not valid to fly as PIC by night or day until a satisfactory flight test has been completed with a flight examiner in each case.
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Postby DieselFan » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:12 am

I've got a mate who has a lazy eye - was told he can't become a pilot, not even MPL? If that was false I'd love to let him know he indeed can?!
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Postby Morph » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:54 am

I had a deeper dig into the Designated Aviation Medical Examiners (DAME) guide on http://www.caa.co.za.

Page 68 goes into more details. It appears that if you have monocular vision you may NOT get a flight medical for the first time. However if you have previously been declared fit with acceptable vision and you are an experienced pilot and you develop monocularity later then you will be able to fly under the restrictions given above.

So it appears to be bad news for prospective pilots
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Postby swiftprop » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:25 pm

Thanks Morph
This has cleared up some questions for me!
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Postby Brian Young » Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:04 pm

Hi Slabfish, I have trained a MPL pilot with one eye, no problem with the medical and IAM oked it as well, I think it is for the Instructor to evaluate the student with a evaluation flight and then decide if he the instructor will be able to train him. I surgest that if you do train a one eyed student in a trike that he wears goggles and a helmet when flying solo because if somthing flys into his only good eye you could have a nasty situation on your hands, 3 axis closed cockpit no probs open cockpit same as trikes.
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Re: one eye

Postby Griffin » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:38 pm

Morph wrote:11. Cancers
11a. Prostrate - will not ground you because it is not a particularly invasive type of cancer. He mentioned a PSA test( :?: ) (instead of the finger up the bum). He says if over 55 have this test done annually and if the PSA measurement starts moving up even though it is below the threshold immediately have this treated. He was talking about a simple dose of antibiotics.

I do not know why doctors give that advice. Waiting until 55 is not a good idea. I know of a lot of men in their 40's who have had prostate cancer. I had a PSA test (which stands for Prostate Specific Antigen) a few day after I turned 51 this year. Level was up and it turned out to be cancer. I had a radical prostatectomy where the entire prostate is removed. Knowing what I know now I would start PSA tests at 40 or 45 max. It is a very simple blood test that can be done at the same time as a cholesterol test. Many of the labs can use the same blood sample for a number of different test. If the PSA is above normal is can be caused by an infection. The only way to be sure that it is not cancer is to do a biopsy in which samples are taken and checked under a microscope. If you catch prostate cancer in its early stages the dangers of it spreading are reduced and there are other treatment options.
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Postby Morph » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:53 pm

Thanks Griff, glad to hear you are OK
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Re: Some flight medical questions answered

Postby Thunderboy » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:47 am

Morph wrote:
12. Donating Blood. If you donate blood you need to be grounded for 24 hours to allow your body to replenish itself
Now 72 hrs CAA and the actual blood donor guys insist on this. This is PRIOR and AFTER donating

That means if you a weekend flyer you can basicaly only donate on a wednesday to give 72 hrs after last flight and 72 hrs time before your next flight.... :roll:
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Postby Tailspin » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:08 pm

I donate often (i have 77 Donations Already)and the blood bank allways comes on a wednesday. I have also spoken to them about the time delay and it is a definate 72 hours.
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Postby Griffin » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:54 pm

Does anyone know why one cannot donate for 72 hours after flying? (Are they worried that the residual adrenaline from a bad landing will effect the poor soul who gets your blood?)
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Postby grostek » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:02 pm

Hi Griffin,


He He He :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Thunderboy » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:28 am

Griffin I think it might have to do with the fact that at altitude, even low altitude there is a decrease in available oxygen, add that to the fact that you have less red blood cells to carry that oxygen around there could be a problem :roll:

I once donated before the 72 hrs (not knowing or telling them) and would not stop bleeding for quite a while, something that never happens to me - not sure if it was related to the flying but now stick to the 72hrs before and after especially since I read it on the CAA rules as well
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