Grabbing control from PIC.

[GR8-DAD]

Even with some 1st hand experience the correct solution to this situation still eludes me:

You are the pax(and a qualified pilot) in an aerie with dual controls. You see that the pilot is making a serious mistake/judgement error which is probably going to result in a prang or serious accident. (keep in mind there is no time for negotiating with the PIC)

If you grab the stick/bar and still prang, the pilot will blame you for the prang and iff alive be in serious sh!t.
If you grab the stick/bar and don't prang, the pilot will probably never speak to you again and maybe also charge you with some illegal action and you will be in serious sh!t.
If you don't grab the stick/bar, you are certain you are going to prang for sure and you'll be in serious sh!t.

After 2 incidents I reckon I choose the one from which I feel I have the biggest chance of walking away from alive, your guess.

The recent Klersdorp incident raised this in my mind.

[Learjet]

You're presenting a typical "Hobson's choice" scenario here.

One could speculate endlessly, however given the "mili-second" response-time frame you're talking about, there's unlikely to be a constructive or rationally defineable solution either way.

[skybound®]

I wonder if you had a safety pilot rating if it would help any?

[The Agent]

Open your mouth and speak , I have had to do it and thank God I did.

[Bacardi]

I took up an oldtimer today. A longish fellow, hardly clearing the pylon, on my max combined MTOW? I said to him, prior to his most enjoyable experience: You don't touch me and you don't sh!t in my kite. He complied, although things were a bit rough at times.

Bac

[John Boucher]

My 2c worth.......

I think it can be a bit of a f-up on a trike without the sissy bar!

On dual control or 3-axis maybe a bit different!

PIC stands for pilot in command and my understanding is that when a student/non-flyer and instructor are flying dual then the instructor still remains PIC - Ever heard these words.... I HAVE CONTROL?

What does the law say about PIC and both are pilots?

I know of some serious prangs where highly qualified pilots lost their lives together and made some pertinent errors like not putting the wheels out to land.....

In the Air Race.... those rules are pertinent (in our crew at least!)..... PIC flies and the NAV navs.... In our crew the nav also does the radio work due to the "workload" of the PIC!

[emil]

Open your mouth and speak , I have had to do it and thank God I did.

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