Hi Gert
I think that Misasa's policy is to support as many competitions or fly in's as possible?
Has anyone organised a comp, or fly in and asked Misasa for support/attendance etc?
They have been asking for a while about notification of such events, and if we are to slack, is this not our fault possibly?
I know we havnt seen anything in the Eastern Cape, but I hold ourselves responsible for that, and am very sure that they would have supported any organised events.
The fact remains that they are fighting for us at meetings with CAA etc, and at least we have a body of some sort looking after us. If they had more volunteers from different areas, they would be stronger. Are there any active Misasa members in the Western Cape?
Larry
PAY YOUR MISASA FEES OR WHAT
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Leprachaun
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The question on everyones mind is what did MISASA do for me this year???
I would like toe put a question to all of you out there , what did you do for MISASA this year ???
I know what I did , and at the same time I know what the managing committee did , - Gert if you had no input from MISASA this year , you are to blame , - Did you ask , did you attend the AGM , if you had six members present you could have had a vote and who know MISASA events could be hosted in the windy Cape - The well known Lone Ranger / Robert Gassman has probably done more than most think - the finances etc - what input have you once again had - Tell the committee what you want - its easier sitting on the outside critisizeing - take action , stop complaining get involved - if you want to critise be pro - active we can all point fingers - give the magazine an article or two , arrange fly aways contact the management ask for assistance - Im 99% sure youll get it - its not MISASAs mag / organisation , its the members run by members for active participating members - Leprachaun.
Ps I used to critisise as well , but now I am deeply involved - daily !
I would like toe put a question to all of you out there , what did you do for MISASA this year ???
I know what I did , and at the same time I know what the managing committee did , - Gert if you had no input from MISASA this year , you are to blame , - Did you ask , did you attend the AGM , if you had six members present you could have had a vote and who know MISASA events could be hosted in the windy Cape - The well known Lone Ranger / Robert Gassman has probably done more than most think - the finances etc - what input have you once again had - Tell the committee what you want - its easier sitting on the outside critisizeing - take action , stop complaining get involved - if you want to critise be pro - active we can all point fingers - give the magazine an article or two , arrange fly aways contact the management ask for assistance - Im 99% sure youll get it - its not MISASAs mag / organisation , its the members run by members for active participating members - Leprachaun.
Ps I used to critisise as well , but now I am deeply involved - daily !
A pilot lives by perfection , or not at all!
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Events Calendar / MISASA fees etc
Misasa Events Calendar for the rest of the year is as follows:
DATE EVENT CONTACT
16 - 17 September Aeroclub Annual Fly-in, Orient Brian van der Merwe vandermb@molapo.co.za
22 - 25 September
Africa Cup Hazyview Moorrees Du Toit 083 627 1458
Alec Green 083 454 4955 Hazy View Hotel Reservations 013 737 7301
22 - 25 September
Pyramid – Jock Fly-in/ Alt. accommodation for Africa Cup
Brian Young 082 337 8206
11 - 15 October SA National Microlight Championships, Ladysmith Rob Gooch rob@mikalt.co.za
0824550684
24 October
Aeroclub AGM
Neil de Lange 0861 018 018
4 November
Aeroclub awards function Neil de Lange 0861 018 018
16 December Breakfast with Boris, Witbank Boris Benic 082 3383054
16 –17 December Stanley Island Fly-in Plettenburg Bay Morne Jonker 082 653 6800
Finally Microland Breakfasts: 14 October, 11 November and 9 December 2006: Peter Wood 082 8922563
The events Calendar has been published in each magazine issued this year. The September issue has been delayed due to finalising the paragliding section. This is a new addition to the magazine. You get the same content as before (44 pages) plus the paragliding mag which is to be added with the back page as their front page. It is currently being printed and will be posted this week.
The promotion of the Gariep Derby was featured over two pages in the last magazine.
WHAT ABOUT THE WESTERN CAPE PRODUCING AN ISSUE OF THE MAGAZINE? GIVE IT YOUR OWN FLAVOUR AND AIR YOUR VIEWS?
I am working with Mike on a survey to test membership views on the 2007 budget. I tested the draft questionnaire at the Microland breakfast last Saturday. The questionnaire will be sent out shortly. But given this debate perhaps you may wish to take the "leading edge" and share your views on what the budget should be. You can get no value cheaply but where and on what do you want to peg your contribution?
As a rough guide I have set out a kick off outline for your debate below but please suggest any changes you feel are necessitated.
R200 Aeroclub fees:
MISASA is a section of the Aero Club. You thus join the Aero Club first and then elect to join the sections of your choice. For instance you could join MISASA and the EAA and pay the fees once for the Aero Club and then fees for each section that you join.
Legislative and regularity changes are passed on a regular basis that impact aviation in South Africa. The Government needs to consult with a representative organisation in much the same way as the Automobile Association represents the interests of motorists. We need to have a voice on these matters.
R100 Administration (Misasa secretary – office and consumables)
Without full-time co ordination and support the committee will face a much larger voluntary time commitment to achieve portfolio effectiveness. Membership fee notices/accounts have to be sent out cash collected and other admin activities like updated membership lists etc must be maintained. Canvassing magazine adverts – adverts reduce the magazine cost by about R10,000 per issue or R50,000 pa
Communication
5 issues of the magazine - every 2 months (no Magazine over the Xmas period). E-News and the website which is the process of being redesigned.
R200 per member.
WHAT OTHER ACTIVITIES DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE COLLECTIVELY FUNDED BY PILOTS?
R100 of fees @ 1,000 members creates the opportunity for funding of R100 000 towards collective requirements.
The Committee and the Editor of the magazine are voluntary services offered by members at no cost to MISASA. Are there any portfolios that you would like to run for the benefit of the membership?
What services / events etc would you like to fund and how much are you prepared to spend on each activity? It would be useful if you respond to this request "for you to air your views" ASAP as the input will help drafting the final version of the questionnaire.
Fly safe
DATE EVENT CONTACT
16 - 17 September Aeroclub Annual Fly-in, Orient Brian van der Merwe vandermb@molapo.co.za
22 - 25 September
Africa Cup Hazyview Moorrees Du Toit 083 627 1458
Alec Green 083 454 4955 Hazy View Hotel Reservations 013 737 7301
22 - 25 September
Pyramid – Jock Fly-in/ Alt. accommodation for Africa Cup
Brian Young 082 337 8206
11 - 15 October SA National Microlight Championships, Ladysmith Rob Gooch rob@mikalt.co.za
0824550684
24 October
Aeroclub AGM
Neil de Lange 0861 018 018
4 November
Aeroclub awards function Neil de Lange 0861 018 018
16 December Breakfast with Boris, Witbank Boris Benic 082 3383054
16 –17 December Stanley Island Fly-in Plettenburg Bay Morne Jonker 082 653 6800
Finally Microland Breakfasts: 14 October, 11 November and 9 December 2006: Peter Wood 082 8922563
The events Calendar has been published in each magazine issued this year. The September issue has been delayed due to finalising the paragliding section. This is a new addition to the magazine. You get the same content as before (44 pages) plus the paragliding mag which is to be added with the back page as their front page. It is currently being printed and will be posted this week.
The promotion of the Gariep Derby was featured over two pages in the last magazine.
WHAT ABOUT THE WESTERN CAPE PRODUCING AN ISSUE OF THE MAGAZINE? GIVE IT YOUR OWN FLAVOUR AND AIR YOUR VIEWS?
I am working with Mike on a survey to test membership views on the 2007 budget. I tested the draft questionnaire at the Microland breakfast last Saturday. The questionnaire will be sent out shortly. But given this debate perhaps you may wish to take the "leading edge" and share your views on what the budget should be. You can get no value cheaply but where and on what do you want to peg your contribution?
As a rough guide I have set out a kick off outline for your debate below but please suggest any changes you feel are necessitated.
R200 Aeroclub fees:
MISASA is a section of the Aero Club. You thus join the Aero Club first and then elect to join the sections of your choice. For instance you could join MISASA and the EAA and pay the fees once for the Aero Club and then fees for each section that you join.
Legislative and regularity changes are passed on a regular basis that impact aviation in South Africa. The Government needs to consult with a representative organisation in much the same way as the Automobile Association represents the interests of motorists. We need to have a voice on these matters.
R100 Administration (Misasa secretary – office and consumables)
Without full-time co ordination and support the committee will face a much larger voluntary time commitment to achieve portfolio effectiveness. Membership fee notices/accounts have to be sent out cash collected and other admin activities like updated membership lists etc must be maintained. Canvassing magazine adverts – adverts reduce the magazine cost by about R10,000 per issue or R50,000 pa
Communication
5 issues of the magazine - every 2 months (no Magazine over the Xmas period). E-News and the website which is the process of being redesigned.
R200 per member.
WHAT OTHER ACTIVITIES DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE COLLECTIVELY FUNDED BY PILOTS?
R100 of fees @ 1,000 members creates the opportunity for funding of R100 000 towards collective requirements.
The Committee and the Editor of the magazine are voluntary services offered by members at no cost to MISASA. Are there any portfolios that you would like to run for the benefit of the membership?
What services / events etc would you like to fund and how much are you prepared to spend on each activity? It would be useful if you respond to this request "for you to air your views" ASAP as the input will help drafting the final version of the questionnaire.
Fly safe
Last edited by alanmack on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
NEMO
I have now joined the ranks of wannabe pilots!
I have now joined the ranks of wannabe pilots!
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The question on everyones mind is what did MISASA do for me this year???
I would like toe put a question to all of you out there , what did you do for MISASA this year ???
did you attend the AGM
No, there was all talk of it going to be held in Cape Town, and then it reverted back to, guess where, Grouteng,
gave exactly two, noticed them?give the magazine an article or two
Action - I had to beg for information to renew my membership,its easier sitting on the outside critisizeing - take action , stop complaining get involved
Get Involved - exactly what I am doing here, I am getting involved in trying to find out whether all money is spend in Grouteng
I did, and I think management should seek to give assistance, not the other way around.arrange fly aways contact the management ask for assistance
Yes, quite a few, but one more than there will be next year.Are there any active Misasa members in the Western Cape?
Now, can I have an answer to my question?
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alanmack
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MISASA Membership
The administration of MISASA was done on a volunteer basis - so you had to find the volunteer until Annette Erasmus was appointed as the secretary. She will attend to all your admin needs:
phone - 0861 018 018
email> secretary@misasa.co.za
This info is detailed on the contents page of each magazine.
Where does your money go? The Committee minutes refect the activities and spend of MISASA. The minutes are circulated to members. If you do not get them contact Annette and she will send you a copy. Annual Financial Statements are presented at the AGM.
fly safe
phone - 0861 018 018
email> secretary@misasa.co.za
This info is detailed on the contents page of each magazine.
Where does your money go? The Committee minutes refect the activities and spend of MISASA. The minutes are circulated to members. If you do not get them contact Annette and she will send you a copy. Annual Financial Statements are presented at the AGM.
fly safe
NEMO
I have now joined the ranks of wannabe pilots!
I have now joined the ranks of wannabe pilots!
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mike2flyfar
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Hi Gert
Thanks for sending me an e-mail to look for your question. I do not regularly monitor this site and rely on someone calling or writing to me and telling me that something needs my attention. Please advise me earlier next time or call me. If you want a written reply for everyone to read then I will openly publish it.
I am in regular contact with many different people in the Western Cape - Zirk du Toit, the chairman of the WCMC the most often.
We give advice and help wherever it is needed. We try to encourage members and clubs to let us know when they need support and when we are approached we always make a plan. Sometimes it is financial assistance and sometimes it is for T shirts or other kit. It is the committee's main responsibility to look after the members and all of us try our best to do that. We are aware that many think that we just spend time and money on events here in Gauteng ... so we make a point of trying to spread it around fairly.
Zirk called 10 days ago asking for help with the Western Cape competition. We have transferred funds to him, T shirts, windsocks, badges. We are trying to arrange for someone from here who has competition experience to go to CT to help.
The budget and actual spending differ somewhat. We will post the accounts out to MISASA members after the end of the year. Just so that you know so far this year we have spend money on:
Admin fees (secretary, postages, tel, rent etc)
Gauteng champs (same money and more kit going to WC)
A small amount on committee travel - this year the committee did not claim any expenses ... we all make that person contribution towards our sport.
The magazine takes up a chunk. Next one will be going out in about 5 days time.
The Dam Busters Derby (it's a pity about the weather because it would've been great to get you guys from the WC there too)
Some flying club days sponsorship around the country
The AGM
The web page and MISASA e-News (next one going out this week)
Nothing at all has been spent on many of the things like development, AP's and instruction.
That's it! We expect to have a profit this year after being very very careful with our spending and trying to just allocate funds to events and things in the interest of all the members.
To explain it again - the AGM was moved to Gauteng after discussions with the chairman of the WCMC who was also the MISASA regional Representative at the time... it was a carefully made decision and which made sense economically and logistically. It was a decision made in the interest of all the members.
As Alanmack has said the MISASA committee is acutely aware of our role and what we should do for our fellow pilots (and I include non-MISASA members) and so we will be sending out a questionnaire to everyone to ask them what exactly they want and from the results of the poll we will determine the way forward. Please encourage everyone (non-MISASA members too) to make the effort to fill it in and return it to us.
It has taken time to sort things out and get new committee members on board and up to speed. I took over as chairman in January this year and only now feel that some of the programs are starting to come together. We are starting to put our plans in place for next year already and I hope that 2007 will be even better than this year for MISASA. (I know, I am an eternal optimist ...!)
Finally, I would personally welcome you or any MISASA member to attend a committee meeting to see for yourself how we manage your national sports body and what we do and how we allocate the money. Also of course we welcome committee help and support - which as you know is a lot more difficult, costly and time consuming to give than the opposite. Of course it is also far more rewarding.
Feel free to ask me anything else or to explain something .. if it is here on this forum then again please let me know.
Regards
Mike
Thanks for sending me an e-mail to look for your question. I do not regularly monitor this site and rely on someone calling or writing to me and telling me that something needs my attention. Please advise me earlier next time or call me. If you want a written reply for everyone to read then I will openly publish it.
I am in regular contact with many different people in the Western Cape - Zirk du Toit, the chairman of the WCMC the most often.
We give advice and help wherever it is needed. We try to encourage members and clubs to let us know when they need support and when we are approached we always make a plan. Sometimes it is financial assistance and sometimes it is for T shirts or other kit. It is the committee's main responsibility to look after the members and all of us try our best to do that. We are aware that many think that we just spend time and money on events here in Gauteng ... so we make a point of trying to spread it around fairly.
Zirk called 10 days ago asking for help with the Western Cape competition. We have transferred funds to him, T shirts, windsocks, badges. We are trying to arrange for someone from here who has competition experience to go to CT to help.
The budget and actual spending differ somewhat. We will post the accounts out to MISASA members after the end of the year. Just so that you know so far this year we have spend money on:
Admin fees (secretary, postages, tel, rent etc)
Gauteng champs (same money and more kit going to WC)
A small amount on committee travel - this year the committee did not claim any expenses ... we all make that person contribution towards our sport.
The magazine takes up a chunk. Next one will be going out in about 5 days time.
The Dam Busters Derby (it's a pity about the weather because it would've been great to get you guys from the WC there too)
Some flying club days sponsorship around the country
The AGM
The web page and MISASA e-News (next one going out this week)
Nothing at all has been spent on many of the things like development, AP's and instruction.
That's it! We expect to have a profit this year after being very very careful with our spending and trying to just allocate funds to events and things in the interest of all the members.
To explain it again - the AGM was moved to Gauteng after discussions with the chairman of the WCMC who was also the MISASA regional Representative at the time... it was a carefully made decision and which made sense economically and logistically. It was a decision made in the interest of all the members.
As Alanmack has said the MISASA committee is acutely aware of our role and what we should do for our fellow pilots (and I include non-MISASA members) and so we will be sending out a questionnaire to everyone to ask them what exactly they want and from the results of the poll we will determine the way forward. Please encourage everyone (non-MISASA members too) to make the effort to fill it in and return it to us.
It has taken time to sort things out and get new committee members on board and up to speed. I took over as chairman in January this year and only now feel that some of the programs are starting to come together. We are starting to put our plans in place for next year already and I hope that 2007 will be even better than this year for MISASA. (I know, I am an eternal optimist ...!)
Finally, I would personally welcome you or any MISASA member to attend a committee meeting to see for yourself how we manage your national sports body and what we do and how we allocate the money. Also of course we welcome committee help and support - which as you know is a lot more difficult, costly and time consuming to give than the opposite. Of course it is also far more rewarding.
Feel free to ask me anything else or to explain something .. if it is here on this forum then again please let me know.
Regards
Mike
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mike2flyfar
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Hey Barry
We posted stuff about the Dam Busters Derby on this forum.
We published it in every issue of the magazine to date. We even had a full 2 page spread in the last issue.
It is on the events calendar
It is on the web page.
We published details and had discussions on the SA Micro chat group a number of times.
We published it in all 3 issues of the MISASA e-News.
The Africa cup has had similar promotions published. So has the nationals.
I often receive calls from flying friends asking about events that are regularly promoted and it made me realize that many people do not read the magazine and e-News etc. or do, but just forget. Human nature I guess.
But I am surprised at you!
Cheers
Mike
PS. If you are going to the Africa Cup and would like more details, schedules etc. then please give one of the organizers a call. Thanks.
We posted stuff about the Dam Busters Derby on this forum.
We published it in every issue of the magazine to date. We even had a full 2 page spread in the last issue.
It is on the events calendar
It is on the web page.
We published details and had discussions on the SA Micro chat group a number of times.
We published it in all 3 issues of the MISASA e-News.
The Africa cup has had similar promotions published. So has the nationals.
I often receive calls from flying friends asking about events that are regularly promoted and it made me realize that many people do not read the magazine and e-News etc. or do, but just forget. Human nature I guess.
But I am surprised at you!
Cheers
Mike
PS. If you are going to the Africa Cup and would like more details, schedules etc. then please give one of the organizers a call. Thanks.
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This is true
This is true. Cato Aero Club approach MISASA for support with their open day. Received the above, plus loan banners to display.mike2flyfar wrote:We try to encourage members and clubs to let us know when they need support and when we are approached we always make a plan. Sometimes it is financial assistance and sometimes it is for T shirts or other kit.
Thanks for the support
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mike2flyfar
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Barry
Most of the committee do not monitor this forum on a regular basis therefore you may ask a question of the committee and get no response. Saying that "if MISASA ever get their act together" is just so damn destructive and negative and unecessary. Besides the fact that you and me and all of us are MISASA. Or is the committee MISASA alone?
Do your friends a favour next time and make the effort to contribute by calling whoever you need info from (instruction, AP's, events, etc.) and obtaining the facts and publishing it. That's positive input for our sport. Or if you don't want to do that then at least call and ask us to write something. You were once chairman of MISASA ... have you forgotten how difficult it is to juggle all the MISASA balls at once?
So, I called the organizers of the Africa Cup and here is the basic info:
20 rooms were pre-booked (now all taken but there might still be place in the hotel) tel: +27 (0) 13 737 7301 fax: +27 (0) 13 737 7525 email: info@hotelnumbi.co.za web: http://www.hotelnumbi.co.za/
Special rate organised (3 nights DBB).
Registration from 5pm Friday. Fly / drive home on Monday.
Entry fee R200 to cover expenses (marshals, maps, photos, equipment, travel, T shirts etc.)
Arranged for everyone to freely use the airfield with the owner - for the weekend.
The hotel management have arranged stuff for the evenings .. that is apart from the fun in the bar as usual.
Prize giving dinner arranged for Sunday night.
Aircraft will be in the open near the hotel and must be tied down. Security arranged.
Local pilots Alec and Wally have arranged flying fun:
Fun Nav
Spot landing
Ribbon cutting
Flour bombing
Handicapped race
Hippo count
Social fly-aways to interesting locations
Pilots and others may participate in tasks, fly-aways, social gatherings etc. .... or not at their discretion.
So it's up to all of us to make a success of the event and the more we help and the more we promote it the better it will be. I will be there and look forward to it all. And especially having a beer with you Barry.
Let me know if you need more info.
Cheers
Mike
Most of the committee do not monitor this forum on a regular basis therefore you may ask a question of the committee and get no response. Saying that "if MISASA ever get their act together" is just so damn destructive and negative and unecessary. Besides the fact that you and me and all of us are MISASA. Or is the committee MISASA alone?
Do your friends a favour next time and make the effort to contribute by calling whoever you need info from (instruction, AP's, events, etc.) and obtaining the facts and publishing it. That's positive input for our sport. Or if you don't want to do that then at least call and ask us to write something. You were once chairman of MISASA ... have you forgotten how difficult it is to juggle all the MISASA balls at once?
So, I called the organizers of the Africa Cup and here is the basic info:
20 rooms were pre-booked (now all taken but there might still be place in the hotel) tel: +27 (0) 13 737 7301 fax: +27 (0) 13 737 7525 email: info@hotelnumbi.co.za web: http://www.hotelnumbi.co.za/
Special rate organised (3 nights DBB).
Registration from 5pm Friday. Fly / drive home on Monday.
Entry fee R200 to cover expenses (marshals, maps, photos, equipment, travel, T shirts etc.)
Arranged for everyone to freely use the airfield with the owner - for the weekend.
The hotel management have arranged stuff for the evenings .. that is apart from the fun in the bar as usual.
Prize giving dinner arranged for Sunday night.
Aircraft will be in the open near the hotel and must be tied down. Security arranged.
Local pilots Alec and Wally have arranged flying fun:
Fun Nav
Spot landing
Ribbon cutting
Flour bombing
Handicapped race
Hippo count
Social fly-aways to interesting locations
Pilots and others may participate in tasks, fly-aways, social gatherings etc. .... or not at their discretion.
So it's up to all of us to make a success of the event and the more we help and the more we promote it the better it will be. I will be there and look forward to it all. And especially having a beer with you Barry.
Let me know if you need more info.
Cheers
Mike
Here are my questions
1. What does it cost to join Misasa, a breakdown please
2. what is the cost of the 3rd party insurance
3. Is the 3rd party compulsory
4. what is the requirement regarding the Misasa and 3rd party payments wrt the calender , i.e. are all payments required in January for the year and if so is there a pro-rata mechanism when paying later in the year or can you pay anytime, and renew every year on the anniversay date.
5. Can you spilt the payments, i.e. pay membership one month and 3rd party another?
1. What does it cost to join Misasa, a breakdown please
2. what is the cost of the 3rd party insurance
3. Is the 3rd party compulsory
4. what is the requirement regarding the Misasa and 3rd party payments wrt the calender , i.e. are all payments required in January for the year and if so is there a pro-rata mechanism when paying later in the year or can you pay anytime, and renew every year on the anniversay date.
5. Can you spilt the payments, i.e. pay membership one month and 3rd party another?
Greg Perkins
Hi Mike,mike2flyfar wrote:Most of the committee do not monitor this forum on a regular basis therefore you may ask a question of the committee and get no response.
I believe this forum represents the single largest group (900 odd) members who are microlighters. I believe it is in your (the commitee that is) interest to monitor it closely on a regular basis. Anything related to Misasa will have Misasa in the title, so they don't have to scan each and every thread, which can take time. Once a day would be more than enough, and then to respond to any queries. I'll email this to you as well just in case you don't get it here
Greg Perkins
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mike2flyfar
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On the rates:
I will call the MISASA office tomorrow and find out and let you know.
On monitoring this forum:
I will try to monitor this forum more often ... but if I don't answer then I ask you kindly to pop me a note. Thanks.
And a special thanks to all of you who support the MISASA committee and believe in what we are doing ...
Regards
Mike
I will call the MISASA office tomorrow and find out and let you know.
On monitoring this forum:
I will try to monitor this forum more often ... but if I don't answer then I ask you kindly to pop me a note. Thanks.
And a special thanks to all of you who support the MISASA committee and believe in what we are doing ...
Regards
Mike
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Oddball
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Some more feedback on what we try to do for you...
A couple of weeks ago there was a fatal accident at Vereeniging, the result of which had some of the CAA inspectors wanting to issue a grounding of all aircraft that have a pull start fitted. It was an eronous conclusion but it took the MISASA Safety Officers input and assistance to avert the grouding order. The Safety Officer spends a lot of time (he is at the CAA once a week) talking to the CAA and making sure that they come to us first so that we can represent your interests.
Mike Blyth spends an INCREDIBLE amount of time talking to the CAA and the Aeroclub about new rulings that are being bandied about- the huge document that started this topic is one of them. Some responses here indicated that the readers did not have time to check this out; if YOU are not checking it out then who will? MISASA does it for you. If it were not for MISASA and the Aeroclub then we would all be having to fork out for transponders for the 'priveledge' of flying under the TMA. That is another ongoing debate...
Regions ask where the support is? Come on guys- we cannot organise things in YOUR region, but if you organise them we will allocate whatever funds are available, and provide you with assistance whereever we can- but be reasonable; we have day jobs too!
I know that it may seem that MISASA does not do much, but there is a lot of stuff happening in the background-- you just have to accept that if you do not want to spend hours reading stuff or attending comittee meetings. If we post it all no one wants to read it; see this topic for graphic examples!
The reason that many things are done in Gauteng is that the Gautengaleners are getting off thier butts and doing it; if you want stuff to happen in your area, organise it! We'll support whereever we can- it's our job to collect and distribute funds as decribed by the organisations rules... and that is exactly what we do.
Oddball
MISASA PRO
A couple of weeks ago there was a fatal accident at Vereeniging, the result of which had some of the CAA inspectors wanting to issue a grounding of all aircraft that have a pull start fitted. It was an eronous conclusion but it took the MISASA Safety Officers input and assistance to avert the grouding order. The Safety Officer spends a lot of time (he is at the CAA once a week) talking to the CAA and making sure that they come to us first so that we can represent your interests.
Mike Blyth spends an INCREDIBLE amount of time talking to the CAA and the Aeroclub about new rulings that are being bandied about- the huge document that started this topic is one of them. Some responses here indicated that the readers did not have time to check this out; if YOU are not checking it out then who will? MISASA does it for you. If it were not for MISASA and the Aeroclub then we would all be having to fork out for transponders for the 'priveledge' of flying under the TMA. That is another ongoing debate...
Regions ask where the support is? Come on guys- we cannot organise things in YOUR region, but if you organise them we will allocate whatever funds are available, and provide you with assistance whereever we can- but be reasonable; we have day jobs too!
I know that it may seem that MISASA does not do much, but there is a lot of stuff happening in the background-- you just have to accept that if you do not want to spend hours reading stuff or attending comittee meetings. If we post it all no one wants to read it; see this topic for graphic examples!
The reason that many things are done in Gauteng is that the Gautengaleners are getting off thier butts and doing it; if you want stuff to happen in your area, organise it! We'll support whereever we can- it's our job to collect and distribute funds as decribed by the organisations rules... and that is exactly what we do.
Oddball
MISASA PRO
A lone impulse of delight drove to this tumult in the skies...
This type of bickering is very destructive!!!!
Please, let's all pull together and understand that sometimes we make mistakes (all of us are human, except for me - I am Superman :D ). The most important thing to remember is that a lot of people are giving a lot of their own time, without compensation (there are people who have demanded compensation in the past and are now trying undermine MISASA for profitable gain!!!), and they all need our positive support. This negativity will destroy our sport which we are supposed to be so passionate about.
Pay your fees, get involved, make suggestions and support our sport.
Barry & Mike, maybe we should promote this forum in a manner that it can become a channel for the voice of MISASA? It is frequented by so many micolighters and would be beneficial for all. I am sure that MISASA wouldn't be adverse to providing some kind of financial support?
Looking forward to a bright future.
Please, let's all pull together and understand that sometimes we make mistakes (all of us are human, except for me - I am Superman :D ). The most important thing to remember is that a lot of people are giving a lot of their own time, without compensation (there are people who have demanded compensation in the past and are now trying undermine MISASA for profitable gain!!!), and they all need our positive support. This negativity will destroy our sport which we are supposed to be so passionate about.
Pay your fees, get involved, make suggestions and support our sport.
Barry & Mike, maybe we should promote this forum in a manner that it can become a channel for the voice of MISASA? It is frequented by so many micolighters and would be beneficial for all. I am sure that MISASA wouldn't be adverse to providing some kind of financial support?
Looking forward to a bright future.
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