GT450 - comments please

[rcbgreen]

One year and 100 hrs flying after getting my Trike NPL license I am thinking of changing my 'Wings'. I did my training on a Raptor and so bought a 582 Raptor on which I have clocked the 100 hours on. Much though I have a soft spot for the Raptor as it is a strong solid trike perfect for a student, I find it heavy to control and slow (50 mph cruise to 60mph if I hold the bar in). I do keep on wondering if I should upgrade to GT450 (Tanarg is a bit too rare and expensive to consider) but I keep on being told things like.
"Rather save you money and get a fixed wing"
"GT450 is took sensitive and difficult to fly, almost all have crashed..."
"It flies just like a fixed wing, no cruising around the cabbage patch like your Raptor"
These and other comments have always been made by people who have not owned/flown a GT450. I really like the concept of being able to cruise at 85 mph and actually get to places I stay away from now. I agree that 50 mph is not too bad until you hit a 20 mph headwind and end up with 30 mph ground speed.

Could a few people who own or have owned a GT450 give me some feedback on what they are like to fly and things I should consider?

[Nacho]

It is in a class of its own, you won't make a mistake. Also all depends on your long term vision when it comes to flying. And only you know the answer to that question.

1. What would you ultimately like to do with the aircraft? True long distances or a toy with the option to go far in as lil time as possible... I know guys who has done some amazing distances in the slower Raptor.
2. Your budget. With the R vs pound, importing a new GT is expensive business. But if you can...why the hell not!
3. GT is stable, fun, fast and just won a few awards in Dubai with the air-show there. https://youtu.be/OqPqSMSduAw

The guys bad mouthing the GT most probably have a green glow when they do so

Personally, if I had the money, I would import the REVO. https://youtu.be/WYXc0sh_UU4 But that is just me

Good luck, do your research properly and remember... Up there the view stays the same, regardless if you fly a 50MPH Raptor or a 100MPH R1m GT...

[Thatchman]

Hi Rob

I also bought a Raptor once I got my MPL and did about 100 or so hours on it and then bought a GT450.

Let me tell you that it is an absolute pleasure to fly. The change onto it was a non-event. I believe that it is easier to fly.

I don't think there are many that have crashed in response to the post above. Lets not confuse the GT450 with the QuikR. They are very different aircraft with different handling characteristics. The GT is a much more forgiving aircraft than the R.

I am moving my GT to Panorama this weekend for a few months so give me a shout and I will take you for a flight and you can see for yourself.

Reilly

[nicow]

Hi Rob

I also bought a Raptor once I got my MPL and did about 100 or so hours on it and then bought a GT450.

Let me tell you that it is an absolute pleasure to fly. The change onto it was a non-event. I believe that it is easier to fly.

I don't think there are many that have crashed in response to the post above. Lets not confuse the GT450 with the QuikR. They are very different aircraft with different handling characteristics. The GT is a much more forgiving aircraft than the R.

I am moving my GT to Panorama this weekend for a few months so give me a shout and I will take you for a flight and you can see for yourself.

Reilly

[Tribal Croc]

I also jumped from a Aquilla to the GT450

All I can say is you will LOVE IT

check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr-5ZQOMzHY

[mulderpm]

When you get yours, please give it to me.

[Tumbleweed]

Probably sound biased but after also moving from a Raptor @ 120 hours, flying the GT was a non-event as far as adapting- besides the speed in the circuit, but even though once you're in the air its all the same, you get a whole lot further and quicker flying more economically so to me a more pleasurable experience.

[Gaylord Focker]

There is nothing quiet like it .

It's a beast , you be amazed at what you can do with them.

Just buy one man.

[coline]

Hi Rob

Take Reilly up on his offer - he took me for my first flip in GT and I have drooled for one ever since!
Hopefully I realise my own GT next month.

Colin

[Northener]

They really are wonderful to fly and with the electric trim they are easy to land. Their higher cruise speed opens up new destinations in a days flight. They are also great fun to fly locally with an impressive climb rate and incredible handling. There are more options available now, such as the GTR Explorer with wide wheels and topless wing. This new wing doesn't need tip fins so feels much lighter in roll and cross wind landings. They do need a bit of length to land compared to an Aquila.

After I had paid my deposit a fellow flier told me how the wing would tear, the wheels are plastic etc etc. Scared the hell out of me as I had already committed to buy. In hindsight one of my favorites was "3 were imported into S.A., 2 of them were written off and the other is sitting in the back of a hangar in Balito. No one will fly it because they are too dangerous".
Needless to say I have never offered to take him for a flight because of the danger . I have been flying my GT450 since 2011. It is a lot of fun and it has ruined my desire to fly anything else. Best decision I have ever made.

[rcbgreen]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. You have helped me make up my mind. Actually asked if the last one for sale on the forum was still for sale but Colin beat me to it. Now that I have got my renewal sorted I will ask Reilly who is also at Pano if the offer still stands to take a flight with him.

[coline]

After 10 hours on mine, I would be happy to take you up, but Reilly is your first choice!

[Thatchman]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. You have helped me make up my mind. Actually asked if the last one for sale on the forum was still for sale but Colin beat me to it. Now that I have got my renewal sorted I will ask Reilly who is also at Pano if the offer still stands to take a flight with him.

Of course. Give me a call and we will make a plan - 083 638 8056

[Bundy]

Let's just say.... I've never heard a GT driver complain?

I cant afford one anyway but having flown in one with TC above...and watching the few that are based at FABA operate I see no reason why you shouldn't buy one if it suits your budget?

Fast...manoeverable, trimmable....reliable.....what more do you want in an aerie?

P&M manufacture the GT in the UK....one of the most regulated airspaces in the world.... and have a long and successful track record.

[rcbgreen]

Thanks Reilly for the flight this weekend and all the other contributors who helped me make up my mind. I will buy one if one comes onto the market for the right price.