Escourt Ultra City Discussion

[nicow]

BM, I heard that they dishing out a R10 000 fine if you land at the Ultra City now

Maybe someone who has more info on this can comment.

[Tribal Croc]

BM, I heard that they dishing out a R10 000 fine if you land at the Ultra City now

Maybe someone who has more info on this can comment.

Jip we also wanted to land at Ultra city on our Drakensberg trip in May but was told about the R10k fine

Rather land at Ladysmith and go have a breakfast at the Hotel

Congrats and Enjoy the new trike

[Bundy]

BM, I heard that they dishing out a R10 000 fine if you land at the Ultra City now

Maybe someone who has more info on this can comment.

Well technically you are landing on a National road. Albeit the servitude...sheesh the guys have been doing that for years at Escourt Ultra city? Someone must have complained I guess.
Unless its a forced/precautionary landing you'd be liable for the same/similar fine on any other national road.

Oom Paul what about:

Margate to Escourt (The aerodrome ) 110NM
Escourt to Volksrust 99NM
Volksrust to FABA 115NM

Nice short legs compared to Namibia!

[CVStrong]

Who is levying this fine? CAA? Or is it someone else? Does anyone know what the basis for the fine is?

Cheers

Craig

[Bundy]

Who is levying this fine? CAA? Or is it someone else? Does anyone know what the basis for the fine is?

Cheers

Craig

Only the enforcement division of CAA can issue you with a fine...which you can appeal if you feel aggrieved. (I would imagine you would!)
If you paid R10k to the petrol pump attendent......then I'm afraid you've been screwed.

[mulderpm]

CV, it does not have to be for a braai. Just come and visit anytime.

About landing at the Escourt Shell Ultra City. The way I understand it, the land is private and therefore if you have permission from the owner (Manager) to land on it, you can. The owner must be contacted before you land and he has never said NO. He likes it, because it attracts attention and therefore business. He aslo sells fuel to the pilots. Other fuel stations are not used in this way because they do not have a suitable strech which could be used as a runway.

Right of Admission Reserved.

[mulderpm]

Yip, that's the one.

It is even listed in Microlight Airfields of South Africa as an airfield with a contact number for the Ultracity.

Just clear it with him before or soon after you land.

Having said all that, I would look for an alternative if I can.

[mulderpm]

Ek ken n' ou kerel wat land en dan deur die dorp taxi...stop by die stop straate..en toe-gee waar nodig......tot by die naaste vulstasie en dan, gat eerste, reverse tot waar die pomp se pyp bycom om vol te maak quadraad

Wat doen jy as jy nie ground support het nie en jy moet volmaak en jou kanne is leeg en die afgelee vliegveld se tanks is leeg.

Dan is daar n' ander snaar wat of die Brandweer of n' tow away diens (Panel Beater) bell. Hulle (die ouens wie hy bel) vind dit kenelik opwindend

Bad planning, I say.

[Bundy]

Yip, that's the one.

It is even listed in Microlight Airfields of South Africa as an airfield with a contact number for the Ultracity.

Just clear it with him before or soon after you land.

Having said all that, I would look for an alternative if I can.

That means boggerol I'm afraid...and clearly something has changed since then?...
What needs to happen is that the CAA must give us a reason for the fines.

I will e mail Hannelie at CAA and get clarification.

Rather avoid it until you know....but hey... you're the pilot.

[mulderpm]

Thanks. Lets hear what they say.

[John Boucher]

Thatch... please provide me the name of the person or provide with more details if possible (PM or e-mail)

JB

[Goose]

Thatch... please provide me the name of the person or provide with more details if possible (PM or e-mail)

JB

Registration markings size is also a new thing getting fined by THEM. They are bragging about the amount of money the are generating for the caa with this Bulls$&@0?. I would like to see how they fit the correct size registration on a Jabie or a Gyro

Sorry vir die hijac Oom Paul.

[Thatchman]

Thatch... please provide me the name of the person or provide with more details if possible (PM or e-mail)

JB

Hi John

I do not have any details but just remember someone telling me about it after a Berg trip. It may have come from Tribal or Demon after one of their trips. I dont think it was anyone in their group but just feedback that they had got.

[Bundy]

I have sent a mail to RAASA to follow up on the rumor's surrounding fines being issued for landing at the Ultra city in question. I will report back when I have had a response.

Registration markings size is also a new thing getting fined by THEM. They are bragging about the amount of money the are generating for the caa with this Bulls$&@0?. I would like to see how they fit the correct size registration on a Jabie or a Gyro

Here's the thing Goose, we as Misasa need to know who these pilots/operators are.
Your ARO can do nothing if the pilots who have recieved these fines do not contact us with the details of their case. Here's why...

The CAA is not forthcoming with information regarding these cases and at no stage in the process is the ARO informed of the outcome or reasoning behind and enforcement case. Even upon direct request for info regarding our members by Misasa we are told that the info is confidential?
It's all very secretive which to be honest really iritates me as an EXCO member. How do we know the system is not being abused?
How are we supposed to inform our members of a safety problem/dangerous flying practice if we are not informed of this?
If the CAA has an enforcement case against a pilot, why is there no NOTAM/AIC issued as a warning to others not to do the same?
The whole system is dysfunctional if you ask me.

If you have been issued any fine by the CAA, please contact JB or myself with the details so that we can get to the bottom of the matter.

[pietmeyer]

Yip, that's the one.

It is even listed in Microlight Airfields of South Africa as an airfield with a contact number for the Ultracity.

Just clear it with him before or soon after you land.

Having said all that, I would look for an alternative if I can.

That means boggerol I'm afraid...and clearly something has changed since then?...
What needs to happen is that the CAA must give us a reason for the fines.

I will e mail Hannelie at CAA and get clarification.

Rather avoid it until you know....but hey... you're the pilot.

Bundy

Please keep us updated on news about the Ultra City if you get any info from CAA

Cheers
Piet