LSA and MPL weight limits.

[goldie]

I know the info. is on the forum, but I cannot find it and RAASA is on some message answer service today. I have a MPL CCM
I need to know if I can fly the Jabiru 2 seat UL 4 cyl. or the Jabiru UL 6cyl. empty 280kg. gross 500kg stall 44 kts . According to the Jabiru website they weigh the same??
Requested info from Jab in George but still waiting for an answer.

[RV4ker (RIP)]

microlight is 450kgs MAUW IIRC...

[Jean Crous]

Yes George ,that is right . As far as i know ,any person with a 3axis (CCM) microlight licence can apply to RAASA on renewal for a NPL, with which it is possible to fly LSA.

[John Boucher]

LSA - 3 axis, 600kgs MTOW, 2 seater, 120kts, 45kts or less, fixed gear!

CCM - 3 axis, 450kgs MTOW, 2 seater....

Does that sound about right?

[justin.schoeman]

LSA - 3 axis, 600kgs MTOW, 2 seater, 120kts, 45kts or less, fixed gear!

CCM - 3 axis, 450kgs MTOW, 2 seater....

Does that sound about right?

Not quite - LSA is up to 150kts, and can be retractable.

CCM has an empty weight limit too - I think 260kg?

[John Boucher]

Thanks Justin... was originally the figures I quoted but changed.... therefore aircraft such as Flamingo & Sting & Sabre also in!

Affirm on empty weight!

[RV4ker (RIP)]

What required to convert from CCM to LSA?

[IceAge]

George,

Based on the RAASA website as per the following: http://www.raasa.co.za/images/PDF/pilot ... gories.pdf the following requirements must be met for CCM to LSA

20 hrs credit
min 5 hrs solo
1 dual & 1 solo flight into controlled airport
2 X countries Dual & Solo 90 min
Nav test 90 min + 1 away full stop
Exams LSA
Skills test Grade A or B instr

The table also contains the requirements for converting to other types.

Hope it helps

[John Boucher]

Sort of confusing ....

Let's say I did my CCM on a Cheetah (Z194) and off we go to LSA on the same aircraft (would that now be X254). Then I have to do a lot of the stuff over. Does not affect me as I have a PPL but....

[RV4ker (RIP)]

Yip, that why I was wondering. Take high time CCM pilot who has plensh hrs on "these" type of aeries. Are RAASA able to take that into account? Say for eg a CCM instructor wants to convert to LSA now (I know they did it before) can they still convert to LSA status or do they have to be retested?

[John Boucher]

Well George... I have decided to become a Part 62 instructor - LSA & CCM. Have been in comms with a local school and will be using my Cheetah for the training. Just off on a business trip this morning and will give you the ins and outs when I get back and have more pertinent gen

[RV4ker (RIP)]

Congrats & good luck...

I been trying to do same for 3 years (Riaan was going to do mine when he did Andy's but life got in the way). Time, but more so a flight school close to me is a problem. I want to build an LSA with my kids (Sonex leading at this stage) and would then like to train my kids to fly and maybe also get some more little wheel drivers out there. I have 2 LSA aeries which can be used for the job....

PS
If there are any schools near Harties HBV who are willing to assist in getting a Blik driver the LSA patter please drop me a line. Need not be on taillie, but that would be a bonus... Needs to be close to where I am and flexible in terms of training times. I travel a great deal, but often have a couple hours in week when things are quiet or Govt officials don;t pitch for a meeting or cancel a couple hrs before...

[WillemG]

Short answer, Jabiru cannot be flown on a CCM rating.

[John Boucher]

Willem... I went back to look at the original question thanks!

But bar the J430 .... it can be flown on a NPL (LSA)

[WillemG]

Willem... I went back to look at the original question thanks!

But bar the J430 .... it can be flown on a NPL (LSA)

The 400 series and some of the 200 series can also not be flown on the NPL.