Congrats Magni

[Jabbanaught]

Magni has just completed the 600th Gyro

[Gyronaut]

Wow! Congratulations to the Magni team.
I am VERY happy with mine and besides the shortage of some luggage space can not think of a single thing I would change.
Closest thing to perfection I have ever flown.

[Jabbanaught]

Yes still waiting for my flight !!

[Gyronaut]

Een van die dae Paul, ek belowe.
Am flying around so much I am hardly ever here. This weekend was Meltonwold in the Karoo then went to PE on Sunday. The bad weather made me decide to leave it in PE and go fetch it when this ugly front has passed. Probably Friday.

Will call you to arrange a visit to Stellies when its back - Must arrange to take Fatboy too.

Len

[Grumpy]

So now you calling me names as well ??

[Low Level]

So now you calling me names as well ??

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I follow the AVCOM thread as well.

[MAGNIficent]

Do you think that is the complete Staff Compliment of Magni Italy

If that is the complete Staff compliment, I would love to know, how many people If that factory was in South Africa

Well Done MAGNI

[nicow]

That's a lot of Magnis...

[Gyronaut]

I'd be very interested to know how many VPM's and Magni's have been imported into South Africa, over what period, and how many are still flying?

I know of 5 fatalities in Magni's in total during all this time - and none of them were as a result of aircraft failure.
2 were Controlled Flight into Terrain (one or those was in IMC) causing 4 fatalities and one was low flight into wires.

Thats all I am aware of. Am I correct?

Impeccable record I'd say!

[OzGyro]

Hi All

Len, one other fatality in OZ attributed to control rod failure, well if you call the control rod unwinding to the extent that the rod end came out of the rod itself a failure. However it does raise a good point in regard to the threads used on control rods. However I am sure with a decent pre-flight that this tradgedy could have been avoided.

Cheers
Darren

[Eggbeater]

Hi Jabbanaught

A bit of trivia - DUO was number 301 Magni produced. She came to SA in the same container as 300 which was sold to Deon and which went down shortly after delivery (something about the gills I think). You can see this by the serial number. One of them ends in 301. This was about 5 years ago so Magni have been producing at a rate of about 60 per year since they built DUO.

[Learjet]

one other fatality in OZ attributed to control rod failure, well if you call the control rod unwinding to the extent that the rod end came out of the rod itself a failure. However it does raise a good point in regard to the threads used on control rods. However I am sure with a decent pre-flight that this tradgedy could have been avoided

Darren, IIRC there was a bit more to this story - it included the pilot to trying to do a beach landing resulting a rollover, and he then allegedly replaced the damaged control arms with home-made ones - and at the same time he also tried to install a home-made set of dual / tandem controls... ( I think it was an M22 which, unlike the M16, is not factory fitted with dual controls) ASRA published quite a comprehensive accident report and it all sounded like an accident just waiting to happen.

[OzGyro]

Hi All

Ok it seems I am copping a lot of flack on this issue for one reason or another, let see if I can clarify a few things.

As previously stated the control rods completely unwound and the rod ends came out of the rod itself, and yes I also stated I dont attribute this as a failure. Something that you may want to consider however is that the control rods on a Magni work the same as a turnbuckle(left and right hand threads), meaning that you dont have to dissconect the rod ends in order to adjust the control rod lenth, winding of the rod will result in lengthening and shortening of the rod and having the same effect on both rod ends. In the extreme as in this case the rod completely unwound. Magnis are fitted with lock nuts and if properly maintained will prevent this from happening. The ASRA investigation drew attention to this fact and concluded from a safety point of view that if the control rods actually have the same thread on each end (Right/Right or Left/left) the chances of this type of incident happening again are greatly reduced. Yes this aircraft did have a history and I agree in some ways may have been an accident waiting to happen, but unfortunately accident or not someone lost there life. There is no substitue for quality training, proper pre-flights and the sharing of information (transparancy) be it good or bad. One accident is one to many in my mind.

Cheers
Darren

[Gyronaut]

No flack Darren

I think we just want to be very clear as to what contributed to the accident trying to make sure it doesn't happen again.

There is no substitue for quality training, proper pre-flights and the sharing of information (transparancy) be it good or bad. One accident is one to many in my mind.

I could not agree more!!