four yellow bars

[SOUT (RIP)]

Hi All feathered friends

I am probably the only person in aviation that does not know what the three and four yellow bars of a co-pilot and captain means. Please enlighten me
Thanks all

[Pat Two]

Here we go Sout:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(land)#Air_forces

But in my opinion... It's more about one's attitude to aviation than the bars. Have seen many a "non-bar" wearing person that derves four gold bars, the inverse is also true.

Cheers,
Pat

[RV4ker (RIP)]

We had baby grows (flight suits) made for an air race a while back with 8 huge bars on each arm (they did not fir on only the shoulder), checks you, checks you back raybans ekse (the mirror ones like iceman wears) and captains peaks/hats, just for a laugh. Funny how the guys "who are an insult to the bars" (not my words) took issue and those who I look up in aviation and who have forgotten all I have to still learn and then some and have had 4 bars since the dead sea was only critical wanted to know where they could get a flight suit like that.....

[justin.schoeman]

I think the bars work as follows:
1 = pupil pilot
2 = professional pilot (PPL)
3 = First Officer
4 = Captain

Although the pilot in command of an aircraft (even a microlight) has the privilege and responsibility of captain, and may in fact wear 4 bars. I have only really seen this when people fly North though, as the bars have a way of simplifying paper work...

[RV4ker (RIP)]

And impressing the chicks

[wiskeyfoxtrot]

If it means getting laid easier, WHY NOT!

Hopefull you will find the "landing strip "

Later

[SOUT (RIP)]

Hay all Feathered friends

Thank you all for the posts I got some good information and had a "gut ripping" laugh. great stuff
a big thanx once more

[Africa]

I believe you have to have ATP license to wear 4 bars. i maybe wrong but thats the way i understand it

[RV4ker (RIP)]

FYI

There is no legal affiliation linked to significance of bars and they do not pertain to anything that is regulated in the aviation industry. Uniforms and bars are purely used by organisations at their own code or discretion as to their significance and value and there is no set norm as to what each bar should represent. Most probability is that the commander/captain wears 4 bars and the co-pilot at 3 bars, but some organisations used bar count to signify between ATP and only COM, etc....

The bottom line is that if you wish to wear bars, a pilot's cap (or even a hostie outfit), you are at lib to do as you please and you will not be contravening any legal criteria.....

I think that they have a place...I would prefer to charter a plane with the pilot wearing a white shirt and bars and neatly dressed than a pilot wearing a teas shirt, slops and unshaven trying to convince me to climb in....(Not groovey)

Bars also work well in training environments.... (you can figure this one out)...Instructors with 3 bars and Senior Instructors with 4 bars....

If John Travolta feels at lib to wear full pilots uniform and "play", then we all have a license to have some fun (Some like to ride model trains, others like to dresss up and ride modle trains)...... If you really want to get some stares, have a five bar made and wear it around airports..... :D It's only usually career pilots that take offence to all and sundry wearing bars, like you are stealing their heritage or something

So if U is the Captien of your Trike you can wear 4 bars...

At most airlines
1 = CPL
2= ALTP
3= FO
4= Boss (Captain)

[Biggles of Africa]

3 Bars if you can read and write
2 Bars if you can read or write
1 Bar if you know someone who can read and write.

[Arnulf]

Its quite easy. On the flight deck, the oke with 4 bars is called Kaptein. The oke with only 3 bars is called Enjy.

The hostie comes into the cockpit and gets the drinks order. This is the standard dialog:

Hostie asks the oke with 4 Bars: " Kaptein, wat wil kaptein drink? " Oke with 4 bars orders coffee with milk and 2 sugars, stirred counter clockwise, or what ever.

Hostie turns to oke with 3 bars: " En jy? "

[Africa]

SAA rules and regs state 4 bars is "baas" and 3 bars is "Philemon" LOLOLOLOL