TOYOTA YARIS ENGINE

[diesel dog]

Hi Justin very valid comment I own aJ430 which I fly and hanger at FASD a well built and excellent aircraft but she prefers AVGAS and at R13 to R16per lt one does not fly as often as one would like .With MOGAS the egts tend to run on the hot side the engine gives a average fuel burn of 20lt per hr,with fuel injection I believe this engine would happily run on MOGAS. A point to consider is that the jabi engine is normally aspirated and theoretically should have less power at increased altitude ,were as forced induction engines perform better at altitude.
Are you sure of the current price of the 3300 engine in ready to fly configuration. I got a quote from the factory with all dress level components and our figures don’t match.

[justin.schoeman]

Hi Justin very valid comment I own aJ430 which I fly and hanger at FASD a well built and excellent aircraft but she prefers AVGAS and at R13 to R16per lt one does not fly as often as one would like .With MOGAS the egts tend to run on the hot side the engine gives a average fuel burn of 20lt per hr,with fuel injection I believe this engine would happily run on MOGAS. A point to consider is that the jabi engine is normally aspirated and theoretically should have less power at increased altitude ,were as forced induction engines perform better at altitude.
Are you sure of the current price of the 3300 engine in ready to fly configuration. I got a quote from the factory with all dress level components and our figures don’t match.

Not sure on the price of the 3300. I last got a quote in October, or so. The 3300 runs just fine on Mogas. There is a flight school in George that flew one to TBO on Mogas without problems.

Fuel consumption will be pretty much the same on the Yaris engine as the Jabiru. No matter what the adds say, turbo charged petrol engines rarely get better than 0.4 lb/hp/hr bsfc, while the Jabiru operates at around 0.42. So you will use about 5% less fuel at the same power setting.

The real advantage of the Yaris engine is the turbo, which will be a huge bonus up here!

[thermalator]

That price is not very attractive & I see no history of this company's designs

how about this one $ 9900 for low milage Honda Jazz engine with proper gearbox RD. or $13800 with brand new engine.

http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/Hon ... gines.html

[bulldog]

At R160 000-00 may as well do what we are trying to avoid and buy a rattex!The Honda is a really good value for money engine with some great engineering.I have met Jan Eggenfellner and he is a no nonsense guy with HEAPS of experience in automotive conversions-I support all the effort that the Soyth Africans are putting into an alternative engine but it needs to be cost effective-not the same price as what is available-where is all the money in R160 000-00.??.Keep up the great work.Diesel Dog-i still dont think that R160 000-00 is anywhere near cost effective-But R16000-00 for the kit i will order 5 for my gyros.Regards Gary.

[Oupa-G]

Makes the 1200GS look cheap

Going flying now with Bosvark on two cylinders, just remember they are two "Bielies."

Cheers Oupa-G

[diesel dog]

Nou gaan ek eers Afrikaans praat want ek is n boer, nog van die ou soort, wat as hy n onderneming gegee het dan hou hy by sy woord.
Ons kan hier met mekaar redeneer oor die merite van die of daai enjin,maar van praat kom niks. As jy iets wil doen dan moet jy jou hand aan die ploeg slaan!
Dit wil my voorkom of dit n geval gaan wees soos hulle op Engels se{FLOG THE WILLING HORSE} Laat ons nou nie die kar voor die perde in span nie.
Wat die YARIS projek betref sal ek eerlik aan julle verslag gee goed of swak.Maar vir nou eers tot ek eerste hands met syfers wat op eie bodem gemeet is aan julle kan verslag gee is ek klaar ge praat.Want dit is nou PLOEG TYD!
{TALK IS CHEAP BUT MONEY BUYS THE WHISKEY}

[bulldog]

Van praat kan baie kom-as n mens bereit is om te luister!Ek het n bietjie ondervinding in die auto conversion game-Het baie tyd en geld spandeer op die subaru-met Steve van SAC.Ons het die fout gemaak en die EA81 engine gebruik-ons moes die EJ25 gebruik(daar is omtrent 12 gyros wat nou met die nuwe Ej25 vlieg.)Die ratkas is getoets en getoets en dit werk uitstekend).Een van die engines is in my ou gyro wat in Hartebeesfontein is(ek dink).Ek is n soutie wat in Afrikaans antword uit respek vir wat jy probeer doen.Onthou dit help nie om te ploeg nie as dit gaan nie reen nie.Ek het hard geleer.Soms help dit om te luister.Good luck with your project .N BOER MAAK ALTYD n PLAN.

[diesel dog]

BULLDOG dankie vir die reen dit is meer as welkom,hier by ons is dit baie droog !
My ears are open but my mouth is shut till I have the facts
Ek luister vir nog reen op die hanger se dak.

[Oupa-G]

Diesel Dog sterkte met jou projek dit vat baie energie sweet trane ,plesier en geld. Hoe meer opsies daar is hoe beter vir die mark . Jy sal vind daar word baie gebabbel deur ouens wat self niks doen nie. Die veiligste is om in die oggend nie op te staan nie en dan doen jy niks en maak geen foute nie. Dan is daar mense soos ek en jy ons doen iets en dan vang die bopunt van ons bome maar wind. Ignoreer maar die dooms profits ek het hulle baie gehad toe ek begin het met die BM's na 6 jaar weet ons nou min of meer wat aangaan. Ek dink die toyota enjin is puik dis nie verniet dat Citroen en Peugeot albei die enjin gebruik nie. Die manne wat so 'n besluit maak by die fabrieke is nie fools nie. Sterkte vorentoe ek sal vir jou kom kuier met die Bosvark.

Cheers Oupa-G

[JACO]

Hi There
Don't want to hijack, but would like to say something about the costs mentioned. We have just started our Toyota 1.5 VVTi engine and is currently being tuned at the specialists shop. Costs so far:
* Low milage engine bench tested
* Reduction Gearbox Paid - waiting for delivery
* Ecu wiring and electrics
* Engine Mountings
* Exhaust System
* Engine Monitoring Instruments
* Fuel Pumps
* Fuel & Air Filters
* Coolant System
Total Costs so far: R35 000,00
All work done by ourselves, No labour costs!
We are going to try to take the Cobra to the AERODEN flyin on the 27th Feb.
Maybe it Can be done, still lots of testing to be done !!!

[diesel dog]

Thanks for the encouragement Oupa-G.It was your pioneering spirit that inspired me to go ahead with the YARIS project. Looking forward to your visit.

[Boet]

Jaco, ek sal oor jou skouer kom loer as jy klaar is, vir die dag wat ek uiteindelik my 1NR-FE enjintjie in die hande kry. Ek neem aan dat jy nie die enjin regop insit nie??

[JACO]

Boet,

Die Enjin staan wel regop, dit werk beter vir my in die Trike.

Cheers.

[diesel dog]

We are going to start the Yaris engine tomorrow ,some pictures of our progress.

[Boet]

Dieseldog just phoned me to let me hear what the Yaris sounds like. ( Noisy, for still no silencer.... ), but running.