New to weight shift in Cape Town

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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Morph » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:07 pm

Shaun74 wrote:Thanks once again to all for the pricless info. Is it true that i can go to a normal GP and dont have to go to an aviation GP?
The eye issue is like his. I can see blury with my left eye. I just cant read with that eye only. I will need an expensive op to rectify this.
So i am truly hoping that this is not going to be a dream killer.

Thanks once again
For the first time I seriously suggest you go to an aviation doctor. It's going cost you around R700 excluding the chest Xray and they do everything else right there. I go to Dr Stoner at the airport 021 424 2003.

Go to http://www.caa.co.za, select Aviation Medicine on the left, then Medical Examiners, then Western Cape for a list all the approved doctors.

The aviation doctor will tell you immediately if you are wasting your time or not. If he feels that you are ok then he will issue you with a medical certificate (with restrictions) immediately. A normal GP won't and then you are going to have to wait from the Aviation Medical board to come back to you with approval of decline.

They might require you to go flying with an instructor who will need to report back as to wether he thinks you will be OK with the landing.
B) VISUAL STANDARDS
General (All 4 classes)
(1) An applicant may not have -
(a) Any condition or congenital abnormality of either eye or its
attachments likely to impede the safe exercise of the privileges of the
licence;
(b) Any abnormality of visual fields or significant defect of binocular
function;
(c) Any manifest squint, or large errors of eye muscle balance (phoria).
The acceptable limits for ocular muscle balance are 12 prism
dioptres for exophoria, 6 dioptres for esophoria; and 1.5 dioptre for
hyperphoria measured at distance. If corrective lenses are required,
phoria must be measured while using the appropriate corrective
lenses;
(d) Any anatomical or functional monocularity or substandard vision in
one eye at initial issue of a medical certificate. However, medical
conclusion may permit experienced licence holders who develop
monocularity or substandard vision to be granted a medical
certificate with appropriate restrictions following a period sufficient to
permit adjustment to this condition.
(2) Monocularity means that either an eye is absent, or its vision cannot be
corrected to better than 6/24.
(3) Substandard vision in one eye means central vision better than 6/24 but worse
than 6/9, with normal visual fields.
(4) For monocularity, the appropriate minimum restrictions initially are as follows:
(a) "If flying open cockpit aircraft, protective goggles not restricting
visual field must be worn". (This must remain as a permanent
restriction);
(b) "Any accompanying pilot must be made aware of the holder's
monocular vision". (This must remain as a permanent restriction);
(c) "Not valid for flight as pilot-in-command by day or night until a
satisfactory flight test has been completed with a flight examiner in
each case". (This restriction may be removed at subsequent
assessment, according to the results of the flight test, or amended to
the endorsement in (d) below);
(d) "Not valid for flight as pilot-in-command by night until a satisfactory
flight test has been completed with a flight examiner". (This
restriction may be removed at subsequent assessment, according to
the result of the flight test).
(5) For substandard vision in one eye (vision between 6/6 and 6/24), the
appropriate minimum restrictions are as follows:
(a) "Any accompanying pilot must be made aware of the holder's
substandard vision in one eye". (This must remain as a permanent
restriction);
(b) "Not valid for flight as pilot-in-command by night until a satisfactory
flight test has been completed with a flight examiner". (This
restriction may be removed at subsequent assessment, according to
the results of the flight test).
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Shaun74 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:11 pm

Thanks Morph. I got the number of Dr Barnard in Monte Vista. I gave him a call and he told me that it shouldnt be a problem depending on how bad it is. He says that if i can drive a car without any restrictions i should be fine. Now need to make the appointment and really pray that all goes well.

Appreciate the advice.
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Trikenut » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:31 pm

Go to Louis Van Wyk at Fisantekraal. I am training with him and highly reccomend him. He is a hard task master liek they say, but if you can deal with that, he will give you very good and safe training, I consider him one of the best instructors in SA! But if you can 'crack' him you will discover the nice Louis behind that!
You can look at his site: http://www.aerosport.co.za or call him on 021 975 3891
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Gyronaut » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:08 pm

Morph wrote: No reason not to fly trikes in the Cape.
um, I can honestly only think of one reason not to fly trikes,.... and that may be because you have discovered Gyroplanes... much more tolerant to wind and therefore you have many more available FLY-DAYS. :lol:
ok so beat me up, I'm biased ##

As for the comments about Louis at Aerosport, I concur. Hard task master, low on finesse (a spade is a spade and klaar) but you can't fault him on safety and procedures and you WILL leave there a competent and highly rated pilot.

Again, I'm biased because I am a Gyro Instructor at his school .... so sue me :lol:

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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Shaun74 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:49 pm

I would love to fly Gyro's but that is for the rich man. I am but a humble IT dude that is overworked and underpaid. I would have to settle for a trike. As a matter of interest what does a Gyro licence cost now. +- wont hold you to it.

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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Gyronaut » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:04 pm

Dont hold me to it but ground school, exams, fees, training, wet on the school's machine, all-in about R38k.

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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Trikenut » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:50 pm

And then another R600K for a second hand Gyro...
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Wargames » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:25 pm

Trikenut wrote:And then another R600K for a second hand Gyro...
Somebody said it!! (**) (**)
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Shaun74 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:48 am

Thats where the problem comes in. R600 000 (**) for a gyro is harsh for someone like me. Can buy a really nice Aerie for that.
Thanks for the info though.
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Trikenut » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:48 pm

Len's just looking for some commision!! :lol: :wink:
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Gyronaut » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:12 pm

Commision? COMMISION??

Trikenut, firstly it is spelt commission ... Wiki:- Commission (remuneration), a form of payment to an agent for services rendered
Will have to have a word with that tutor of yours :o

Secondly, I am a gyro instructor, not an agent of any description for anything or anyone.
As a matter of interest, I get paid less to instruct than I pay my lowest paid staff member. (**)

I know you are joking but let me tell you that if you're in recreational aviation for the money you will starve.

You've still gotta come fly with me sometime

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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby extra300s » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:03 pm

So Shaun

Did you pass that medical!!!???
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Shaun74 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:26 pm

Hey Guys.

I had to delay my medical by a few days to Tuesday 18th @ 08:00 with Dr Barnard in Monte Vista as i felt that i first had to to all i can do to make sure i pass. I spent last weekend with my in-laws in Saldanha who are doctors and had them run all the tests on me. ( stress ECG, Lung test. Choloestrol, Blood pressure etc.) all was perfect. I went to the optometrist this morning to see what they could do to help improve my left eye. I have 6/6 vision in my right eye and 6/9 in my left. To break that lot down i have to be at 6 meters to see what a good eye can see at 9 meters. My peripheral vision is perfect @ 95 degrees. Actually better than the norm. So that one plus. They ordered soft contact lenses for me that will improve my vision but will never be perfect.

All in all there is no more i can do. So please say a little prayer for me and im sure all will go well.

Shaun :?: :?:
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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Wargames » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:28 pm

if you have 6/9, that is good enough to pass.

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Re: New to weight shift in Cape Town

Postby Shaun74 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:30 pm

Hey Wargames.

Cool. I have read the sheet that Morph posted for me regarding CAA eye sight requirments an they also say that 6/9 is fine. Lets hope all goes well.

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