Transporting a project?

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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby justin.schoeman » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:09 am

Yep - a car trailer is the usual way... But there is an (empty) trike trailer doing the trip. If the Raven can safely fit, it would be great!
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:45 am

Check weight and axle width. Should not be a problem.. Tie it down with ratchets and remember the canopy will create a low pressure and fly open at most inopportune time, so either lock it or tie it down.... (Yip, I know this first hand)
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby justin.schoeman » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:10 pm

I don't suppose someone has a trike trailer I can borrow for an hour or two (in the Pretoria area)? I am sure I can twist Rudix's arm ( :twisted: ) to let me test loading his Raven on a trike trailer???

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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby AndyG » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:23 pm

Be careful of your overhang. Anything over 2 metres on a trailer less than 3500kg gross and you are entering permit territory and special permissions. Remember a red flag (wifes red undies etc) must be attached to the projecting item at the rear.
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby Greenman » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:12 pm

I need to fetch my 3 axis Koala in Durbanville, and have converted my boat trailer for the trip. I simply added two angle irons over the A frame for the two wheels to stand in (about eight inches appart), and will strap the nosewheel to the front pillar in the middle where the nose of the boat would rest. The wings will slide underneath. I will only fasten the wheels like they do with automobiles and of course secure the doors.
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby Grumpy » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:09 am

Greenman, Glenn, 'bayliner' in this thread needs to go fetch his trike in Gauteng somewhere, maybe share the trip? I unfortunately Have no contact number for him
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby Greenman » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:32 pm

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Thanx I will give him a PM.
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby Greenman » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:42 pm

Bayliner/Justin
I'm going down empty with a 6 metre modified double axle boat trailer. Will stop over in Bloem, from there to George through to CapeTown, Pickup in Contermanskloof ,back to George, Bloem and Witbank. Justin, I would gladly assist if the Raven and Koala could both fit on the trailer but I doubt. It would certainly carry the weight as the koala has no motor and my 21" boat weighs about 1200 kg.
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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby justin.schoeman » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:52 pm

Greenman wrote:Bayliner/Justin
I'm going down empty with a 6 metre modified double axle boat trailer. Will stop over in Bloem, from there to George through to CapeTown, Pickup in Contermanskloof ,back to George, Bloem and Witbank. Justin, I would gladly assist if the Raven and Koala could both fit on the trailer but I doubt. It would certainly carry the weight as the koala has no motor and my 21" boat weighs about 1200 kg.
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Thanks, but the Raven uses up 6m all to itself! I am sure you could help bayliner out though?

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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby grostek » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:51 am

Greenman wrote:Bayliner/Justin
I'm going down empty with a 6 metre modified double axle boat trailer. Regards
Chris
Hi Chris,
An Alternative plan with such a big Trailer is to make 2 tall tresstles that will fit on the trailer and can possibly be screwed down and are wide enough to allow a airie to fit underneath them. They will need massive gusset to be able to take the wind side loads.
You will then have a double dekker trailer.The wings of one airie can be strapped to the sides of the Tresstles.
Limiting factor of the rig is going to be height which will be to the order of 4 meters or more.Yes the fin of the top fuselage will be High.
Your towing speed will also be reduced to about 80 kmh because of the massive drag.
Expect double or more fuel consumption in such a double dekker configuration.
What ever you decide to do, one or double dekker, take at least 5 single bed spons matresses per airie, cut these into three or 4 pieces each, these will limit damage to airframe and wings.Then take at least 10 packets of thick 10m nylon rope per airie. Some will be spare but always better to have a spare on the road if the closest store is 50 km away.Remember to stop every 50km or so to reightighten the ropes, they will stretch with the wind load.Make knots that can easlily be undone but will hold firm during loads. Put spons under your ropes where they pass over components, other wise they will chafe on the compnent.If you want to use the flat straps with racheting device your costs will be x 5 or 6 for basically disposable items.Make gust locks for ailerons elevator and rudder so that they dont bang around while you are driving. Take along at least 4off 4inch x 4 inch x 250mm long wooden blocks that can be clamped to the tresstles preventing the fuselage from moving left or right, take 2 g clamps per block.High speed driving will damage the airies, so drive slow and bank on 3 days to get back.Take a co driver/helper along.Single airie will be much easier to bring back. Double configuration can easily double your costs.
I realise that you have probably done such a trip before, but just want to give others here an idea of what is involved.

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Re: Transporting a project?

Postby Bayliner » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:28 am

Greenman, I received your pm. Thanks very much for your offer but I have managed to borrow a trailer from Clueless at Morningstar. Thanks Morph for your assistance over the last couple of weeks. I have also forwarded Greenman's message to Justin in case he could help. I can't really comment on the technical side of aircraft and transportation thereof as I am still new at this with only a few more solo hours away from MPL.

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