Certificate on English before PPL renewal

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Morph
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Postby Morph » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:16 pm

Are you then not cognisant of polysyllabilic propensities or do I find myself demeritorious in the use of floccinaucinihilipilification :?: :roll:

As far as I can see it can only be with reference to the use of the radio. I have to say we need to keep the medium to one language. It is a common channel and you have to be understood clearly. I often hear it here in the WC that guys are having long chats in Afrikaans on 124.8 about where to land and where to meet, what conditions are like and where they are going. This is all very well but if a foreigner is flying in the area he will not understand any of this valuable, and sometimes non-valuable information. (I am not knocking afrikaans per se, it is just an example, please don't attack me on this one:shock: )

Secondly you must not only understand the language but you must also be clear in speaking it. I know a lot of people who can understand a language but not necessarily speak it . However your language ability should be sufficient to cover radio specifics, i.e. understanding the accepted word usage, terminology, etc and not required to be able to address a symposium of the English language.

But then all of this should be covered in the Radio Licence. It is therefore imperative that non-english speaking foreigners pass a Radio Licence exam with the emphasis on language proficiency both from an understanding what the ATC is saying to you as well as being able to make yourself absolutely clear to others.

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Postby GR8-DAD » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:30 pm

At least half the Karoo and Freestate pilots are now disqualified by default from flying any further :twisted:

I think we should be thankfull that they are pursuing this in English. Years back there was speculation of radio procedures standardized in French as majority of Int pilots were from France then. :shock:
Nooitgedacht: 124.8 Alt 1050 ft
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Postby Bacchus » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:32 pm

Dit is diskriminasie!

I also want to do mine in ZULU, XHOSA and SOTHO. :shock:
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Postby Free Spirit » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:38 pm

Yes, there is a set of detailed instructions to guide radio examiners on language issues in the issuing of licences. This was sent out to all RE about a year ago. It is on a scale of 1-5, if I remember correctly, and it details the levels of language proficiency. I suspect nobody bothered and thats why they now make it compulsory. :roll:

History has shown that many airline accidents happened because pilots simply did not understand THE LANGUAGE. No way out on this one
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