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- Magnifan
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Re: Safety
Ok I am convinced, I am also gatvol of waiting 20 minutes to warm up, so it looks like a small mod is at hand 

Gyro Pilots do it in Autorotation
Magni M16: ZU-DIO
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Re: Safety
I start and idle just about 2000rpm for 5 minutes to get 30 deg C, then I start my taxi. By the time I reach the threshold the oil is just over 50degC, perfect for run-ups and takeoff 

Greg Perkins
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Re: Safety
Hi All.
Seeing that we are on the safety road, we have just received the following safety directive from the British CAA. It may be worthwhile to look at the hoses as fitted to your aircraft.
Have a MAGIC day.
Braam Hechter
Seeing that we are on the safety road, we have just received the following safety directive from the British CAA. It may be worthwhile to look at the hoses as fitted to your aircraft.
Have a MAGIC day.
Braam Hechter
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Re: Safety
Always had a thermostat on all my gyros , always fitted by 'altius et latius' Torr , exept Xenon by J V Ludwig. Same as Morph .Warms up quickly on Highveld Winters morning , always had joy , never once a problem. Plakking your radiator with duc tape on a cold winters morning in Upington is fine until you suddenly hit warm air over Namibia and those digital numbers start creeping up. Maybe I should have plakked a little less ... ?
Len , she should be on her way end of March or early April. Her new owner is still doing the Ozz thing. In the meantime I run her up every weekend and then put her back under her covers.
Len , she should be on her way end of March or early April. Her new owner is still doing the Ozz thing. In the meantime I run her up every weekend and then put her back under her covers.
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Re: Safety
Thanks Braam,
On the subject of hoses, sometime ago I visited Oupa-G to have a look at his Bushbaby Safari which was undergoing construction. Or should I say undergoing "surgery". As a surgeon I think Oupa-G was taking as much (if not more) care with the building of his Bushbaby as I imagine he does with his patients' reconstructive surgery. I was interested to note that Oupa-G avoided using "jubilee clamps" in favour of Oetiker "ear-clamps" wherever possible. When I queried this he challenged me to inspect my own gyros hose-clamps. So I did. I switched on both fuel pumps and carefully inspected all the hose-clamps whilst under pressure. I'm a fastidious SOAB when it comes to pre-flighting so I was not surprised to see that all were secure with no sign of any leaks whatsoever. I gently pulled and wiggled some the hoses just to be sure... to my astonishment a little stream of fuel squirted in my direction. And another began to drip when I manipulated the hose-clamp. Both hose-clamps were tightly secured!
There is now the sum total of 4 jubilee-clamps on my gyro's fuel lines. These allow for the easier replacement of the two fuel filters. That's it. Every other hose-clamp has been replaced with Oetiker 'ear-clamps". I did get a comment or two from someone who said that they preferred the screw/jubilee type clamp as one could physically assess the tensioning and also that they're more convenient when it comes to "bush repairs" etc but so far I've been much happier and had greater peace-of -mind with the Oetiker clamps which clamp more uniformly,don't rust, or get worn worm drives or chew up / cut the hose outer surface when tightening.

On the subject of hoses, sometime ago I visited Oupa-G to have a look at his Bushbaby Safari which was undergoing construction. Or should I say undergoing "surgery". As a surgeon I think Oupa-G was taking as much (if not more) care with the building of his Bushbaby as I imagine he does with his patients' reconstructive surgery. I was interested to note that Oupa-G avoided using "jubilee clamps" in favour of Oetiker "ear-clamps" wherever possible. When I queried this he challenged me to inspect my own gyros hose-clamps. So I did. I switched on both fuel pumps and carefully inspected all the hose-clamps whilst under pressure. I'm a fastidious SOAB when it comes to pre-flighting so I was not surprised to see that all were secure with no sign of any leaks whatsoever. I gently pulled and wiggled some the hoses just to be sure... to my astonishment a little stream of fuel squirted in my direction. And another began to drip when I manipulated the hose-clamp. Both hose-clamps were tightly secured!
There is now the sum total of 4 jubilee-clamps on my gyro's fuel lines. These allow for the easier replacement of the two fuel filters. That's it. Every other hose-clamp has been replaced with Oetiker 'ear-clamps". I did get a comment or two from someone who said that they preferred the screw/jubilee type clamp as one could physically assess the tensioning and also that they're more convenient when it comes to "bush repairs" etc but so far I've been much happier and had greater peace-of -mind with the Oetiker clamps which clamp more uniformly,don't rust, or get worn worm drives or chew up / cut the hose outer surface when tightening.

Dave Lehr
Magni Gyro M22 ZU-EPZ
“You're flying Buzz! No Woody we're falling in style!”
Magni Gyro M22 ZU-EPZ
“You're flying Buzz! No Woody we're falling in style!”
Re: Safety
Per AN0010Rotax914Maint Magni maintenance schedule all fuel hoses should be replaced every 2 year or 200 hours.
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Re: Safety
Thank you for sharing this valuable information.
Is the clamp made from stainless ?
Do you need special tool to tighten/shrink the clamp?
What is the sizes that you get these clamps in?
Please supply us the information of the supplier of these Clamps.
Thanks
Is the clamp made from stainless ?
Do you need special tool to tighten/shrink the clamp?
What is the sizes that you get these clamps in?
Please supply us the information of the supplier of these Clamps.
Thanks
To fly is LIFE...!!!
Keep on LIVING...!!
Keep on LIVING...!!
Re: Safety
Stainless steel or Zinc platedIs the clamp made from stainless ?
There is a special jaw-pincer tool which very closely resembles a (much less expensive) tile-nipper (which apparently works just as well if you round off the nipping edge)Do you need special tool to tighten/shrink the clamp?



Oetiker 1-ear clamps 2.9 - 30.0 mmWhat is the sizes that you get these clamps in?
Oetiker 2-ear clamps 4.1 - 46.0 mm
http://www.oetiker.com/content.asp?l=4&idNavig=7 OetikerPlease supply us the information of the supplier of these Clamps.
SA Agent: http://www.icclamps.co.za/ will no doubt be able to direct you to the nearest stockist.
Dave Lehr
Magni Gyro M22 ZU-EPZ
“You're flying Buzz! No Woody we're falling in style!”
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Re: Safety
Just been speaking to someone from the Cape who happened to be at Fisantekraal on that particular day (6th March 2010). Three gyro's landed there, refueled from a bakkie ON THE TAXI WAY of runway 23, and took off again from the taxi way, their climb taking them straight over the blik aeries of the local flying school parked outside their hanger.
Not only is this very poor airmanship but also shows lack of consideration and what about engine outs at the wrong time???
The registrations were ZU-DOM, ZU-RBJ, and ZU-REI. We know the names of the pilots and if we want to be treated better by the SACAA, we had better get our house in order. This is not on!!!
From what I can make out, they also caused chaos at Saldanha.
Not only is this very poor airmanship but also shows lack of consideration and what about engine outs at the wrong time???
The registrations were ZU-DOM, ZU-RBJ, and ZU-REI. We know the names of the pilots and if we want to be treated better by the SACAA, we had better get our house in order. This is not on!!!
From what I can make out, they also caused chaos at Saldanha.
Re: Safety
I had a call from a police officer a week or so ago asking me if I knew any of the 3 gyros which buzzed Gaanzekraal holiday resort on the West Coast that weekend. I didn't know anything at the time but obviously from the post above it all falls into place. The SAPS was holding a training seminar at the resort and I guess they weren't impressed with their airmanship either.
When I read about how gyros are no longer welcome at Cape St Francis airfield (see AVCOM thread here http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 22&t=60510 it's becoming an unfortunate reality that the few bad apples are starting to become a significant problem for the gyro community in general.

When I read about how gyros are no longer welcome at Cape St Francis airfield (see AVCOM thread here http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 22&t=60510 it's becoming an unfortunate reality that the few bad apples are starting to become a significant problem for the gyro community in general.
Dave Lehr
Magni Gyro M22 ZU-EPZ
“You're flying Buzz! No Woody we're falling in style!”
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“You're flying Buzz! No Woody we're falling in style!”
- lion
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Re: Safety
Thanks for posting a reply on Avcom Len.
Couldn’t agree with you more – the complainants should use legal procedures via CAA to sort their problems out - not ban microlighters and gyros in totality.
Cheers,
Lion
Couldn’t agree with you more – the complainants should use legal procedures via CAA to sort their problems out - not ban microlighters and gyros in totality.
Cheers,
Lion
Re: Safety
Hi all. Been at an AP seminar today, and guess what - Collin Jordan was there and who did he single out ---- gyroplanes. We are high on the accident list, high on the low flying list and low in his (and I guess other persons) estimation. The ONLY way that we can improve our image as well as our sport is by policing it ourselves!!!!
I, for one am reluctant to run to the SACAA over every single little thing, however, why can't we have a simple disciplinary code, which we all sign and is kept on record at RAASA/Aero Club on our membership file, and if we transgress, our peers have the first opportunity to "donner" us? After that, if the situation persists, our peers hand us over to the SACAA for further legal action, taking the other accounts into consideration.
The old story of "wie nie wil luister nie, moet maar voel"!!!
I, for one am reluctant to run to the SACAA over every single little thing, however, why can't we have a simple disciplinary code, which we all sign and is kept on record at RAASA/Aero Club on our membership file, and if we transgress, our peers have the first opportunity to "donner" us? After that, if the situation persists, our peers hand us over to the SACAA for further legal action, taking the other accounts into consideration.
The old story of "wie nie wil luister nie, moet maar voel"!!!
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Re: Safety
I'll sign that code of conduct with pleasure. Any other takers?
Makes me uptight to think that Colin Jordaan dislikes Gyro's demmit.
Makes me uptight to think that Colin Jordaan dislikes Gyro's demmit.

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Re: Safety
Hi All.
I was called into i meeting with the commissioner and some other people yesterday regarding recreational flying. After the AP seminar we have invited Mr. Jordaan to come and fly a gyro. When starting the meeting yesterday it was opened with the statement that a gyro did low level flying over his house and then did approx four circles before continuing. Due to the size and placement of our registration numbers it was not possible for the commisioner to see the reg nrs. He did however get a chance to take a video of the flight. We will see what this brings forth.
I have tried, to up the image of gyros at the CAA but this type of operations tend to cut me off at the knees.
Any suggestions? How are we going to stop the rogue elements from muddying the environment for us all. If the legislation is now changed regarding reg nrs, i.e. size and position we can only be disgruntled with our own kind. In my mind a code of conduct will only keep the honest amoungst us honest. It is like preaching to the converted.
Greetings, and please try to do the right things, right.
Braam Hechter
I was called into i meeting with the commissioner and some other people yesterday regarding recreational flying. After the AP seminar we have invited Mr. Jordaan to come and fly a gyro. When starting the meeting yesterday it was opened with the statement that a gyro did low level flying over his house and then did approx four circles before continuing. Due to the size and placement of our registration numbers it was not possible for the commisioner to see the reg nrs. He did however get a chance to take a video of the flight. We will see what this brings forth.
I have tried, to up the image of gyros at the CAA but this type of operations tend to cut me off at the knees.
Any suggestions? How are we going to stop the rogue elements from muddying the environment for us all. If the legislation is now changed regarding reg nrs, i.e. size and position we can only be disgruntled with our own kind. In my mind a code of conduct will only keep the honest amoungst us honest. It is like preaching to the converted.
Greetings, and please try to do the right things, right.
Braam Hechter
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