Stephan van Tonder wrote:Ok I hear what you say but the scetch shows both systems reading TPS

Redundant just doesn't read air temp. Then I'm trying to understand how the spark side is run - I assume you are running something like coilpacks fired by the management - not the usual 'magneto' system as per airplanes normally?. So each system can fire the coilpacks seperately? - can you have both ECU's 'live' to the spark side? - probably not. Unless the one system runs the one sparkplug and coilpack and the other system runs the other spark plug meaning they are always 'on' and you have the redundant 'mag' setup then which is what I think I'm seeing in the sketch.
Then Each ECU has a fully redundant Fuel system to itself - meaning you can shouldn't run them together for the fuelling side as it will then double the fuelling up?
You don't use manifold pressure at all for tuning or do you? TPS is great but doesn't actually show load on the motor the same way. I prefer to tune car engines using both but of course it's slightly different for airplane engines. I assume you also use variable timing seeing it is available in an EFI system as opposed to running 'locked' timing. Makes for easier starting for a start..
Yes I know AGM batteries - use one in my landcruiser to run the fridge..
Stephan
I will try and clarify one or 2 things. Each cylinder have 2 plugs and yes you do have 2 coil packs (the BMW 1200 have 2 plugs standard). Both plugs are fired but the backup system fires about three degrees later than the main one. (the normal ECU also fires both plugs but I understand that they only fire the main plugs at high revs - maybe I should check it some time)
Yes we do vary the timing. We start at about TDC and advance to about 36 degrees BTDC at about 3600 RPM. We normally advance a bit less close to peak revs (35 degrees @ 7000 RPM) for safety. The fuel is cut completely if the revs is above redline, normally set to 7200RPM, so you have no danger of over revving.
Both systems have a TPS connected in the drawing but the backup system can run without the TPS (the main system can not). Installing 2 TPS's is quite expensive and you can either run only the main system on the TPS or run both from the same TPS. Running without the TPS you are limited to a 2D map and you lose the ability to accelerate suddenly but it will get you home.
Both systems should be able to run without the temperature sensors in case the sensors or wires break during flight (maximum temperature is assumed when a disconnection is detected). You will not be able to (or it will be very difficult to) start without the temperature sensor when the engine is cold.
I do tend to agree with you the more I work on tuning the engine that it is better to use a pressure sensor (MAP) rather than a TPS. I might try it some day. The software is already written and tested on a 912 (the "other engine we do not want to mention"). We are worried about the pulsation of the 2 cylinder but I do have a trick or 2 up my sleeve.
Note: The backup system is not exactly the same as the main system. You gain more robustness but you lose some performance.