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report back - latest
O.K. I had a good chat with CAA licencing today, and also with Neil de Lange (GM of Aero Club). Niel has O.K'd me relaying the following news:
1. At todays industry consultation meeting, CAA gave the assurance that all the outstanding applications for Build Numbers, Initial Autho's to Fly and Proving Flight Authorities would be addressed within the next to weeks. Each application would be dealt with individually, 'on merit'. The tone was constructive, leading those present to believe that customers needs would be met within the next 2 weeks.
2. The problems surrounding part 24, and the implementation date of 1 Jan 2008 have been acknowledged. CAA will issue an 'policy statement' before 15 December, stating how the problems will be dealt with. The tone of the meeting was that the 'policy statement' will in effect make sure that we remain legal while the issues and amendments are sorted out.
The following statement I am releasing after speaking to both Claudia at CAA and Neil of Aero Club;
(i) CAA are not in the position to implement part 62 on 1 Jan 2008. They have also pointed out to us that we (Aero Club and MISASA) are not ready to implement part 62. There are still numerous requirements which have to be met before it can become legally binding. The bottom line is that CAA will also release a statement whereby the ANR's will continue to be the rule until all conditions for implementation are met.
The good news we have all been waiting for
I don't believe it would have happened this quickly if not for the incredible support I have received from all of you on this forum.
Thankyou and have a wonderful holiday.
Talk to you all in the new year.
I have finished with this work until next year..................
Cheers.
1. At todays industry consultation meeting, CAA gave the assurance that all the outstanding applications for Build Numbers, Initial Autho's to Fly and Proving Flight Authorities would be addressed within the next to weeks. Each application would be dealt with individually, 'on merit'. The tone was constructive, leading those present to believe that customers needs would be met within the next 2 weeks.
2. The problems surrounding part 24, and the implementation date of 1 Jan 2008 have been acknowledged. CAA will issue an 'policy statement' before 15 December, stating how the problems will be dealt with. The tone of the meeting was that the 'policy statement' will in effect make sure that we remain legal while the issues and amendments are sorted out.
The following statement I am releasing after speaking to both Claudia at CAA and Neil of Aero Club;
(i) CAA are not in the position to implement part 62 on 1 Jan 2008. They have also pointed out to us that we (Aero Club and MISASA) are not ready to implement part 62. There are still numerous requirements which have to be met before it can become legally binding. The bottom line is that CAA will also release a statement whereby the ANR's will continue to be the rule until all conditions for implementation are met.
The good news we have all been waiting for
I don't believe it would have happened this quickly if not for the incredible support I have received from all of you on this forum.
Thankyou and have a wonderful holiday.
Talk to you all in the new year.
I have finished with this work until next year..................
Cheers.
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CAA
Another report regarding the matter of NTCA:
Amidst rising emotions, borne out of frustration of affected parties, today's Industry Liaison Forum has injected a glimmer of hope regarding the NTCA issue. In his capacity of chairman, the SACAA's CEO, Mr Zakes Myeza, once again guided the proceedings in such a fashion that representatives felt that the first inklings of an emerging solution is appearing. The acting Commissioner, Mr Gawie Bestbier, proposed that the CAA should internally revise policy and issue a statement to that effect by 7 Dec 2007. With such policy in place the CAA will then continue its deliberations with industry representatives who form part of a workgroup tasked to deal with this issue. This workgroup, which will have members of EAA and Aero Club, will amongst others formulate the criteria for interim exemption from the application of regulations that have led to the current stale mate situation. Senior management of the SACAA were in agreement with GA representatives that urgent attention needed to be given to the issuing of this exemption to alleviate hardship caused by restrictive practices relating to the issuing of build permits, authorities to fly and the registration of NTCA aircraft.
Mr Myeza's timely intervention, supported by Mr Chakarisa and Mr Bestbier, has the potential to arrest the damage caused to industry so far and will be recorded as another example of his sound leadership.
Amidst rising emotions, borne out of frustration of affected parties, today's Industry Liaison Forum has injected a glimmer of hope regarding the NTCA issue. In his capacity of chairman, the SACAA's CEO, Mr Zakes Myeza, once again guided the proceedings in such a fashion that representatives felt that the first inklings of an emerging solution is appearing. The acting Commissioner, Mr Gawie Bestbier, proposed that the CAA should internally revise policy and issue a statement to that effect by 7 Dec 2007. With such policy in place the CAA will then continue its deliberations with industry representatives who form part of a workgroup tasked to deal with this issue. This workgroup, which will have members of EAA and Aero Club, will amongst others formulate the criteria for interim exemption from the application of regulations that have led to the current stale mate situation. Senior management of the SACAA were in agreement with GA representatives that urgent attention needed to be given to the issuing of this exemption to alleviate hardship caused by restrictive practices relating to the issuing of build permits, authorities to fly and the registration of NTCA aircraft.
Mr Myeza's timely intervention, supported by Mr Chakarisa and Mr Bestbier, has the potential to arrest the damage caused to industry so far and will be recorded as another example of his sound leadership.
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Thank you David. I have been anxiously following the posts from all concerned the past couple of weeks. My impression is that MISASA/Aeroclub would have let this debacle come to an unhappy conclusion had it not been for Annie and your intervention. Thanks again. I look forward to join an alternative, Aeroclub-unrelated representative body in the new year, if and when it becomes compulsory.
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So now that Zakes is no more - I wonder if we will see this policy statement comimg out. Problem is that if it does not it really leaves no time before compliance date.Sam wrote:In his capacity of chairman, the SACAA's CEO, Mr Zakes Myeza, once again guided the proceedings in such a fashion that representatives felt that the first inklings of an emerging solution....
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The acting Commissioner, Mr Gawie Bestbier, proposed that the CAA should internally revise policy and issue a statement to that effect by 7 Dec 2007.
Mr Myeza's timely intervention, ....
Anyone have any better insider information?
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Via grape vine they were going to release a statement on NTCA on 7 Dec, but with Zakes leaving, Nationwide, board members fraudulent dismissal, Bestbier steeping down, general chaos, I doubt NTCA is a priority at this stage.
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Yeah agreed initially with your thoughts about the prirorities, but then thought again about how many aircraft will not be airworthy come 1 Jan, and how many of those owners who will ignore the regs and fly anyway.
Once illegal activities and behaviour begin - it will become very difficult to reverse.
Once illegal activities and behaviour begin - it will become very difficult to reverse.
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