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Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:33 am
by Big Al
Hello Cheetah owners.

Just curious. I am purchasing a cheetah with 80hp rotax. If cruise speed is 90mph at sea level MAUW what could i expect the TAS to be at say 5000' :? I should probably know the answer but i have just started my PPL and there is nothing like good info from an old salt vhpy

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:49 am
by Wargames
if CAS/RAS 90mph, TAS would be 97mph. ISA conditions used for calculations.

Regards,

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:33 am
by flybynite
Hi Al

My Cheetah has a 11 mph speed difference between mauw and flying solo with 40l (roughly half tank) of fuel. The Cheetah 582 likes cruising between 70-80 mph and the 912 cruises well at 80-85 mph!

Regards

Larry

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:00 pm
by John Boucher
It seems Stephan van Tonder is the oke to ask this one....

My Cheetah(582, P-Prop, 3950 - 5800ft) cruises happily at 70-75mph. When working out a cross country nav I block it at 65knots ground speed!

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:15 am
by Stephan van Tonder
The one we use in the school is a 912s with a piet de necker prop. Cruises 90/95 mph at 4900 rpm at close to mauw.

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:24 pm
by Big Al
thanks for the info. I am buying the 912 with 3 blade warpdrive prop. How could i increase cruising speed other than fitting a merlin jet motor? :twisted:

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:28 pm
by johnsa
jabi 3300 might do the trick 120 bhp?

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:07 pm
by flybynite
Hi Allan

Be very wary - for every positive there is a negative -if you start increasing the speed you will loose lift! Your Cheetah is only the 80 hp version - if it had the 912 uls you could have made a plan to get a bit of both worlds. (Remember the short grass strip that you and your boet wants to fly from?) :) :)

Regards

Larry

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:25 pm
by johnsa
Why you loose lift?
flybynite wrote:Hi Allan

Be very wary - for every positive there is a negative -if you start increasing the speed you will loose lift! Your Cheetah is only the 80 hp version - if it had the 912 uls you could have made a plan to get a bit of both worlds. (Remember the short grass strip that you and your boet wants to fly from?) :) :)

Regards

Larry

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:21 pm
by flybynite
Apologies - not lift but climb performance. :wink: (i am a van der Merwe - not a rooinek :lol: :lol: )

By fiddling with the pitch of the prop you will either gain speed or climb performance (not both unless you have lots of spare ponies) - a friend nearby tried it with his Cheetah.

Regards

Larry

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:14 am
by Big Al
Hey Larry

Good to meet you at last 8) 46 years old and never too old to learn :? I am going to ask many more questions, i will try and tire them at Avstar, give you a break!!

Allan

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:27 am
by johnsa
Avstar :?:

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:18 pm
by flybynite
Avstar is a flying school in Pmb where Allan is going to do his ppl.

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:21 pm
by johnsa
Is it a good school?

Re: Cheetah cruise speeds

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:48 am
by Big Al
Hi johnsa

Havent started training with them yet but they seem like a helpful enthusiastic bunch :)