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Bennie, ek sien jy is besig om oor te haal vir die volgende dwaling. Gaan sit stil in die hoek tot die geit gebedaar het, en spaar geldjies bumekaar vir n 582. :D ROTAX RULES!!!!!!

Every industry needs a "maverick" willing to experiment, this encourages change, puts pressure on existing suppliers to keep them on their toes...the real good thing about this forum is to share views so we all win..

Take a look at the Aero Motor..65hp turbo charged twin cylinder 4 stroke, looks heavy but is effectively altitude compensating and with a 2:1 box will swing a seriously large prop to about 2,000rpm.

There is Smart car in a scrap yard in Verulam at present... go buy it Benny..

keep studyin this enjuneering thing..

Zulu1

ZULU1 wrote:Every industry needs a "maverick" willing to experiment, this encourages change, puts pressure on existing suppliers to keep them on their toes...the real good thing about this forum is to share views so we all win..

Take a look at the Aero Motor..65hp turbo charged twin cylinder 4 stroke, looks heavy but is effectively altitude compensating and with a 2:1 box will swing a seriously large prop to about 2,000rpm.

There is Smart car in a scrap yard in Verulam at present... go buy it Benny..

keep studyin this enjuneering thing..

Zulu1

Competition rules...

The Smart engine is cheaper than you think...for the 25k for the car you could get the engine new - uh what, half price of 582

The Smart engine is cheaper than you think...for the 25k for the car you could get the engine new

The engine per se is not the problem.
The big problem is that it is a fully electronic motor. The software is mapped to include all the ancilliary sensors from the Smart car. To convert it into an aero engine, the management system must be reprogrammed. The manufacturers are not willing to supply the data to re-map the motor. Apparently it is very difficult to "reverse engeneer" the software and reprogram.

Regards,
Arnulf

Arnulf wrote:

The Smart engine is cheaper than you think...for the 25k for the car you could get the engine new

The engine per se is not the problem.
The big problem is that it is a fully electronic motor. The software is mapped to include all the ancilliary sensors from the Smart car. To convert it into an aero engine, the management system must be reprogrammed. The manufacturers are not willing to supply the data to re-map the motor. Apparently it is very difficult to "reverse engeneer" the software and reprogram.

Regards,
Arnulf

Seems like there is quite a few flying over seas.

Boet wrote:Bennie, ek sien jy is besig om oor te haal vir die volgende dwaling. Gaan sit stil in die hoek tot die geit gebedaar het, en spaar geldjies bumekaar vir n 582. :D ROTAX RULES!!!!!!

Oom Boet, ek hoor jou. Ek wil net eers gou hierdie ou vw motortjie reg of weg kry.

DieselFan wrote:

Seems like there is quite a few flying over seas.

Correct. However it entails more than just to source an engine from the scrapyard, do a few adjustments and implant it into your aerie.
You sit with the same problem like with the BMW motor. The manufacturer openly and publicly distances himself from using the engine as an aero engine. They will only do that once you have a good business case. Rotax cornered the market. Similar scenario like with Continental and Lycoming who cornered the market for 50 years. Only now new technology is slowly appearing, at a price.

Regards,
Arnulf

Arnulf wrote:DieselFan wrote:

Seems like there is quite a few flying over seas.

You sit with the same problem like with the BMW motor. The manufacturer openly and publicly distances himself from using the engine as an aero engine.
Regards,
Arnulf

Agreed but you are no better of flying with a VW motor.

I think you should split the motors into aviation and non aviation motors and compare appels with appels.

Agreed but you are no better of flying with a VW motor.

Exactly. My point. That is why I am not flying with a VW motor.

I think you should split the motors into aviation and non aviation motors and compare appels with appels.

Precicely. Also my point. For aviation I use an aviation motor backed by the manufacturer as an aviation motor. For automotive purposes I use an automotive engine backed by the manufacturer as a automotive engine.
Same goes for boats, bikes and lawnmowers.

Regards,
Arnulf