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Windscreen and side window materials
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:21 pm
by Bennie Vorster
Plastics
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:06 am
by ZULU1
Try contacting DEMS Springfield Park (Durban) or Maizey Plastics countrywide for some alternate materials. I have used some good kit in the past for machinery guards. Lexan polycarbonate is still the best for the purpose you require.
I import helmet visors made from Lexan (sourced from Mud Island) they withstand fuel and crop spayers chemicals..really top quality materials. For your screen they produce shaded also..I understand that a company somewhere in SA vac forms plexiglass Helicopter screens..maybe try Ampaglass also (countrywide). I used to run a Vac forming factory years ago and some interesting alternatives are available.
Bill on the forum will be able to give you some help as he made a forming mould for his Vagabond out of a gas fired Venter trailer turned into a oven..I will speak to him today.
Hope this helps.
eish
Zulu1
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:45 am
by Morph
Bennie,
you don't really have much choice. THe material to use is Polycarbonate. There is the imported brand called Lexan or some local versions. Maiseys sell a local version called Nexal (Lexan backwards

) The difference is price and quality, Lexan the best and most expensive and the rest.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:24 pm
by Bennie Vorster
Hi Morph

Does all of them crack when smelling fuel.

and is there a way to heat it up before fitting it so it is not so stressed. Or is the only way to just bend it into shape ans rivit it.
Also will I find a template some ware or do I just use the old windscreen?
Another question. Can I fly a BB without its doors ?
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:54 pm
by Morph
Lexan marks with fuel, not sure about cracking.
Don't heat it. Just bend it and rivet it. If the rivet holes are 3.2mm then drill the lexan to 4mm to allow some movement to prevent cracking.
Use the old windscreen as a template.
The busbaby can be flown with doors open and without doors.
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:49 am
by Mogas
Fuel drips on the windows are a problem. If I get any fuel on my windows I immediately clean it off with a damp soft cloth. So far no marks.
The side windows are particularly vulnerable if you use your tank fuel drains to check for water regularly. These drains are not the best and if they get a grain of sand in them they will drip forever no matter how hard you try to tighten them.
This is another good reason to fit the recommended header tank. I use this to check for water on preflight and have only ever opened my tank drains to defuel.
I often fly with my doors open but find it very windy above 60kts. I have put a 70kt limitation on this in my pilots operating manual.
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:04 pm
by Bennie Vorster
You will not believe the tempo that colouring and cracking takes place after fuel spilling. I had to drain wing tanks to transport the plane and on another incident when de installing the motor the main fuel supply hose were under pressure and sprayed the wind screen. The tensioned points were the bends is immediately cracked.
Special care should be taken when refilling the tanks to not spill and always have a cloth handy.
I wonder If you do not get some type of clear lack spray that you can laminate the windows with so it does not react with the window materials.
Don't know if it is just a BB problem.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:05 pm
by Morph
No Bennie, all microlights use Polycarbonate as windscreen material and thus all will be suceptable to this sort of problem.
Replacing the windscreen is not a big job. Take the main cowl off (should have Dzus fastners or Rivnuts that screw out easily, remove the boot cowl, also with simple fastners. The windscreen is held on by two rows of rivets on either side and a row along the top by the roof. Very carefully drill these out using a 3.2mm drill. Be carefull not to scratch your paint.
Use the old windscreen as a template to cut the new one. Straight lines are easy to cut using a very sharp blade and a straight edge. Pull the blade along the straight edge a few times, I'd say about halfway through, then carefully bend it around a 90 bend and it will snap along this line.
I find a cutting blade on a grinder works very well and a sanding blade on a grinder is great for trimming edges and sanding around corners. Be aware it does scratch easily, so don't take of the protective cover until you have installed it.
Then as I have mentioned the holes for the rivets must be 4mm with 3.2mm rivets.
I estimate the cost of the Polycarb sheet to be less than R500. I have a very big piece of 2mm, (3.0m X 2.4m) which is twice what I need. You need about 1200 x 500 x 2mm for the standard size windscreen. If you are not in a big hurry we can talk about you buying a piece off me at a very reasonable price of course. Just got to figure about how to ship it to you without scratching it.
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:24 pm
by Bennie Vorster
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:47 pm
by Morph
I'm sure we can make a plan. Let me see how much is left over when I am finished the wings
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:33 am
by Bennie Vorster
Thank you Morph, PM me when you are ready.
