Aviatika South Africa?

[Papalima]

I would like to know if there are pilots with experience in flying the Aviatika double seater in South Africa, some advise will be appreciated I can get a Aviatika and would like to restore it but need to know if it is worth while

Regards
PL - o71 double84 73double5

[bobthebuilder]

According to Avdex, there are 36 Aviatika aircraft registered.
Is this the Russian biplane?
Single engine?

[skybound®]

If you dont come right here - try http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/memberlis ... ile&u=2429 He has a double seater Aviatika.

You may have to wait for a response for a few days - he is part of the CANSA’s message takes to the Southern Africa Skies tour.

[Papalima]

Thanks will view the site - The Aviatika is a two seater with a 912 UL with 300 hours, need some attention here and there. Like to know how does it handle

[KFA]

Hulle is gebou soos 'n tank en glide soos 'n klip.......Tipiese russiese vliegtuig. Alles hang af van wat jy vir die errie betaal. Sal nie omgee in een in my versameling te kry nie.

[bobthebuilder]

Aerobatic rated!
Yip ..... must be Russian!

http://www.oskbes.ru/890-e.html

[Agair]

Personally I've never been a fan of Aviatikas. Could never understand the big whoaah, esp the 2-seater. Overdesigned, to heavy... bad glide ratio... Need at least a 912 to fly with more peace of mind. Have flown one at Fisantekraal (close to sea level) some years ago together with Louis van Wyk and remembered I was dissapointed in the performance which didn't get anywhere near what I was used to when flying with my brother (who is of comparable weight to Louis) in a Thunderbird MkII (582 engine) at Blue Hills Midrand. I won't try to do aerobatics (as mentioned by someone) with the 2 seater in the binneland ...
I'd rather look at other options, T/bird as mentioned, Cheetah, etc...

And... maintenance of the airframe, parts... stock...?

I see you're in Phalaborwa, not sure how good it will fly on hot days. You might find yourself grounded more often than you want if you don't have a 914 "strapped on"...

Others might beg to differ due to their experience.

[Papalima]

Thanks for the comments, you are correct Agair on a hot day in Phalaborwa you need a serious strap - we are restoring a two seater with a Rotax 912 UL motor, as mentioned the workmanship on the Aviatika is outstanding which makes it heavier than other LSA - not planning to do aerobatics.

Like mentioned I am trying to source more info on the plane ie: Glide Ratio

[johnythelaw]

Hi Almal
Ek het n enkel sitplek met 582 engine en vlieg op Swakopmund Namibia by die kus.
Nou -
Die Aviatika is swaar gebou en ek het dit heeltemal herbou van die rak af by Midas en motor toebehore plekke - Geen doelgemaakte komponente
behalwe die " brackets waar die vlerke bo vasmaak.Onderhoud is geen probleem selfs exhaust mounts is standaard Renault exhaust brackets
Myne het n spuit tenk en ek tel gemaklik 95 liter water / spuitstof op met geen verskil in die vlieg hantering

Die performance is maar 80 km / uur met uitklim - gelyk spoed so 110 tot 120 km / uur ( agv baie drag) ( 2 sitplek is beslis stadiger)

Landing is so 70 km / uur nadering met krag sny oor die draad en dan afhou met landing op so 60 km / uur

Krag af landing is presies dieselfde maar die hoek grond toe is baie skerper - geen probleem om spoed vas te pen nie en die uitrond en landing eenvoudig.
Ek het doelbewus al die enjin afgesit en n nood landing hier in die woestyn gedoen om te toets - Dit is werklik geen probleem.
Rol so 30 meter op die grond tot stilstand -

Vlieg hantering is vir my soos n Cessna 150 - By die kus OK maar binneland te min krag.
Ek wil juis nou uitvind of ek die 582 enjin kan meer perde gee i p v n swaarder 912 in te sit.

Die 912 is n goeie en enjin maar is vrek duur vir n tweedehandse enjin - met ekstra gewig, so ek gooi maar liewer paar liter meer sous in

NB : Moenie te veel vir die lugraam betaal nie: Die enjins kos almal dieselfde of dit in n Sling sit of n trike

groete

Johan de Wet
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