618 power valves

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618 power valves

Postby powerfly » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:31 pm

Would anyone know... if i took my power valves off of my rotax 618 engine and bolted a plate over the ports what the effect would be?

good top end and low bottom end?
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Re: 618 power valves

Postby Aerosan » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:40 pm

It would be a very bad idea to be honest :lol: If you want to override them rather use a piece of tubing and keep them fully open. I fyou are interested Ill post more but Im sure you can figure it out. ($$) ($$)

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Re: 618 power valves

Postby powerfly » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:01 pm

A piece of tubing? Can you be more specific? The slides are R1700 and so i'm looking at doing away with them and to not try sacrifice the top end.
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618 power valves

Postby John Young » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:52 pm

powerfly wrote:Would anyone know... if i took my power valves off of my rotax 618 engine and bolted a plate over the ports what the effect would be?

Good top end and low bottom end?
Hi,

Exhaust back-pressure control will be lost without the Rave Valve at higher rpm. Doesn't seem worth it IMHO. 2-Strokes are quite dependant on being operated with with a finely tuned exhaust through the power band.

The exhaust system of any 2 stroke engine is a crucial part of the engines performance. Not only do they help quiet these beasts, but also help to extract the power that these lightweight engines can truly deliver.

A muffler system in a 2 stroke engine works by creating a wave of pressure bouncing back and forth within the chamber. This 'wave' helps to draw scavenge out exhaust gasses AND draw in the next fresh charge of fuel for combustion.

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Rotax Rave valve maintenance and cleaning.

The Rotax 618 uses a system called RAVE to adjust the power output of the 618 engine at lower engine rpm, and like anything that moves up an down in a channel, which is affected by heat and oil, it requires maintenance and cleaning to work properly.

The 618 Rotax uses the spent exhaust gasses to open and close the RAVE valve, which is a simple guillotine style of valve. A small hole in the exhaust port applies pressure to a set of bellows, under load or at high revs the back pressure pulls the guillotines up and down adjusting the back pressure of the exhaust system. At lower rpm a spring is used to keep the valves closed.

If the valves are stuck open or closed they can effect the 618 in lower or higher rpm settings. If your engine revs fine at full power but is sluggish at the lower end then your valves are sticking open - not giving enough back pressure to the system.

If your engine is not putting out full power at top end but run fine from at an idle they there is a good chance your valves are sticking in a closed position, or failing to open all the way up.

Cause:

The major causes of sticking RAVE valves on the 618 Rotax engine are the type of oil used and the pitch of the propeller. Oil - The RAVE valve system requires oils with a "high flash point," which refers to the temperature that an oil ignites at. Higher flash point oils are less prone to leaving oily residue on the guillotines, residue that builds up, hardens, and prevents proper valve action.

Too much oil is another problem. The 618 uses an oil injection system, to help prevent excessive oil input into the engine it is essential that the oil pump be set up properly.

Storage: Many of our craft get stored for periods of time. During these storage periods it is essential that the engines be stored properly. With fuels drained and engines lubricated.
Propeller:

The next major contributor to oil build up is the propeller. Too much pitch in a prop will lug the engine down, causing excessive build up in the RAVE valve system. The 618 likes to rev and Rotax recommend a setting of 7200 rpm full power straight and level flight. This can usually be set up by achieving 6800 tied down on the ground.

Cleaning: The RAVE valve system is not complicated, but attention must be paid when disassembling and reassembling the unit. A parts manual, and Polaroid pictures during disassembly are recommended.

To remove the RAVE valve unsnap the retaining spring (43), remove the cap (42), being careful not to loose the compression spring (40) use a 10 wrench or socket, to remove the nut (41) on top of the rave valve stem (21), remove bellows, (34, 36, 37) use an allen wrench to remove two allen bolts, remove housing with valve assembly.
When you have the slides out inspect them for carbon deposits. If present remove them with a find wire brush and cleaning solvent.
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Re: 618 power valves

Postby MADDOG » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:04 pm

Blanking off the holes with the valve removed will have the same effect as them being fully open all the time. The power band will be moved up the rev range with a noticable drop in low down power.

Not a good idea in my opinion.
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