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Postby BOATCH » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:24 am

HI ALL I went solo on sat for the first time in my own plane and was very strange as i lifted of the plane felt like if it was hanging to the left side and i had to compensate by the aileron . All i can think of is that the feul tank witch is built in behind the pilot and my weight also on the left side makes the diff. I did not have that problem when the inst was in the plane with me and when on short finals i have to compensate whith right aileron. The plane i am flying is a skyranger. THE OTHER THING THAT I MISS, IS MY INST VOICE WHEN YOU LEAVE THE GROUND . Did one hour over the weekend and then the wheather turned bad. Any advice would be appreciated thanks BOATCH
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Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:33 am

Your weight makes the difference.

Enjoy it. Was climb performance significantly better?
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Postby BOATCH » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:19 am

I did my training in BARBERTON AND THERE THE ALT IS 2750 AND IN ALIWAL the alt is 4400 but my climb rate at six in the morning with one up and full tank 50 lit was +- 500ft p/m witch i think is not to shabby for a 582 bt. Is there any body ho could help me with the torques on the 582 because i see there is some oil coming from the cyl head but it could be from the manifold because the motor is up side down. :lol:
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Postby Morph » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:56 am

Congrats on going solo

I have emailed you the maintenance manual
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Postby Ranger » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:43 pm

Congratulations on going solo.
I sometimes get confused............But i'm not sure
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Postby mile high » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:55 pm

congrats on your first solo flight, big difference with no instructor with you.
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Postby Neophron » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:35 pm

Hi BOATCH

Congrats on your first solo! Also congrats on owning a great plane! Remember it is also a very light little plane and weight changes in the plane makes a big difference on the controls. Next time you are in the air with your instructor do the following: While keeping the controls neutral lean back and watch the nose pitch up, lean forward and it will go down, lean to the left and the plane will start turning left, to the right...you get the picture. When flying solo you can put some weight in the pax seat to help you out(sandbag?). If you miss your inst voice ask him to talk to you on a hanheld for a while...eventually he will shut up and let you fly the plane... :lol:
I did my training on a Skyranger as well and owned a 582 for a while and it seems that the upside down 582 has Landrover issues (leaking oil) :lol: . Like you said, could be from the manifold.
By the way what is your planes reg?

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Postby bosbok » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:38 am

Veels geluk met jou solo !!
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Postby Ranger » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:12 am

upside down 582 has Landrover issues (leaking oil)
Um um um hey watchit. Some of us are suckers for punishment. I've owned 5 series 3 landy's, a Discovery Tdi and now i have a Defender 130 Td5. The Td5 is the only one that's been dry underneath. I regularly have to check whether it's got oil in. Anyway a landrover only leaks oil to marks it's territory. Best 4x4xfar. Oh yes, almost forgot that I drove a landcruiser once but only for a year before upgrading again to landrover. vhpy
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Postby Renier » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:51 pm

Ranger, why did you have so many Landys--don't they last very lomg....?!
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Postby Ranger » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:03 pm

Renier, I bought my first landrover from a farmer in Natal, got it running and drove it down to Cape Town. It used 35 litres of oil and it took me 4 days. The thing was a wreck. I then stripped the complete vehicle down and started a rebuild. Everything was overhauled from bumper to bumper,every bearing and seal was replaced. 24 K later and i basically had a new vehicle but fuel consumption was killing me so I bought an Isuzu KB 250 Diesel which I overhauled and fitted. Another 15 K. I had many happy moments and trips to South West Africa in it. So I made deals, swopped repairing old sports cars for landrovers, bought them up for spares etc. I've still got a series 3 landrover that I fitted a Isuzu KB 280 turbo diesel to. Bought it for 3K with a winch which is worth that. My daily vehicle is a Defender 130.
I fly trike and one has to love flying trike to fly one. Not everyones cuppa tee. Same with Landrovers. You gotta love'm to own 'm.
Touch wood i've never had any shit from any of my Landy's. They may be as rough as a bear's arse but they go anywhere and bugger the oil leaks. You should see when it rains. You need to drive with a raincoat.
I sometimes get confused............But i'm not sure
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Postby Ranger » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:10 pm

Buy the way Morph is also a Landrover fan.
I sometimes get confused............But i'm not sure
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Postby Griffin » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:32 am

Sorry for the hijack Boatch. Ranger what is your experience with the Isuzu 280 TD motor? I fell in love with a low (ish) mileage Frontier 280TD but my spanner jockey (sorry Ian) told me so many stories about problems they have and the cost of a rebuild or replacement that I was scared off. It seems they either last for 100km or for +500km. Any comments??
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Postby Morph » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:11 am

Ranger wrote:Buy the way Morph is also a Landrover fan.
Absolutely 8)
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Postby Ranger » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:08 am

Hi Griffin
When the 280 first hit the streets folks went WOW, this thing goes. All of a sudden you had a diesel that could keep up to the petrol models. Little did people realize that not much had changed from the earlier, heavier, noisy and slow diesels other than..... TURBO! The pump setting was at max fuel delivery and that's where the problem lies. Opposite to petrol engines, the more fuel you give a diesel the hotter it runs, hense the common failure on these motors was piston crown melt down leading to a siezure. To overcome this we down tuned the pump sacrificing minimum power and suggested an intercooler. I corresponded with GMSA about this problem and eventhough the 280 went through phases wereby injector nozzles changed, piston designs changed they denied a problem existed. Another problem was the no. 4 conrod that had a tendency to exit through the side of the engine block. This was absolute driver abuse eventhough you weren't allowed to call it that rather incorrect driver procedure.
Now don't let this all put you off. If the vehicle has a good service history then it will serve you well. If you drive the vehicle like a diesel it will last.

Was the engine in this particular vehicle you are interested in ever overhauled?
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