BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby mulderpm » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:29 am

John sorry about your incident, and so glad you are ok. (^^) On the positive side, you have learnt what no book or instructor can teach you. Experience is irreplaceable.

I fully agree with Alan's comments, when you see you are not going to be able to go around, I.e. on round out..switch off the mags..it halves your rolling distance and reduces risk of injury & damage. Also, as soon as you are on the ground, pull in the bar fully...I have broken my sunglasses in my top pocket doing this. :oops: The brakes are of little use...only use them at the last moment, if all else fails. Don't take your feet off the steering...except if you are about to hit a solid object. (**)

My 2c worth...glad you are ok (^^)

Mr Louis, jy sal plan moet maak. Boom afkap...of so iets...Ek wet nie :shock: Ek is nou bang vir jou strip! :shock:
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby John.com » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:37 pm

Bundy wrote:"BST...copy...report placed on the ground"

"Ummm.... Tower, BST is on the ground...runway vacated" (^^)

I love the little "grunt" and the URGH! at the end of the clip :lol:

John, it looks like you carried quite a bit of speed in the approach? This may just be a camera illusion though? Your thoughts?

Also the tower (far away) reports wind light and variable...what was the wind condition at Jdans? :)
Hey Alan,

If you watched the video you will have heard some other guys joking with FALA ATC about S&R whilst I was coming in on final. Then my quick report "BST on Final". Then, focusing hard on short final approach and having not given them a read-back, FALA ATC asked "BST, do you copy". However, but due to the focus on flying it was just a quick "copy" when they again asked for a read-back!

Wind conditions were negligible down in the valley where Jakkalsdans is located. Windsock was pap!

All-in-all a good learning experience from which others can hopefully learn!

I hope fellow aviators can see the benefit of having a video to extract the EXACT happenings from as well as being humble enough to share those happenings with the world!

Had this happened with other incidents (Bantan 6 at Kroon springs to mind! :wink: ) it would greatly assist us all in learning from them.

Safe Skies! (-)

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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Tumbleweed » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:35 pm

Back to pulling in the bar to assist with braking, I have found that by pushing the bar out to the profile tube you create far more resistance to assist braking than pulling in.
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Bundy » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:27 pm

Tumbleweed wrote:Back to pulling in the bar to assist with braking, I have found that by pushing the bar out to the profile tube you create far more resistance to assist braking than pulling in.
In theory TW...you are probably correct about "wind resistance"...but I would argue that you have more control over the nose wheel with the wing pitched down (downforce). This is one of the biggest problems on the Aquilla with the front braking system.

I'll try both tommorrow and report back (^^)
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Louis Cole » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:08 am

Trees trimmed, taxi instructions indicated and obstacles at the end of rwy. 12 marked. Tree naming ceremony to be finalised before May 10th.
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby John.com » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:13 am

Louis Cole wrote:Trees trimmed, taxi instructions indicated and obstacles at the end of rwy. 12 marked. Tree naming ceremony to be finalised before May 10th.
Very good Louis!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Bundy » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:34 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Classic! (!!)

Oh...and I forgot to report back.

No doubt that on MY plane, it's better to brake with the wing pitched down...on a rear wheel braking system I think the opposite would be the case. :)
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Loco » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:50 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: classic!
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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Robbie Shaw » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:17 pm

Hi John,

Great story, glad to hear all is good and thanks for the heads up as it is important to make a mental note of all things when it comes to flying safe..

Must tell you enjoyed reading that story...

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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby John.com » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:44 pm

Robbie Shaw wrote:Hi John,

Great story, glad to hear all is good and thanks for the heads up as it is important to make a mental note of all things when it comes to flying safe..

Must tell you enjoyed reading that story...

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Re: BEWARE when landing on a MOIST GRASSY Runway!

Postby Louis Cole » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:49 am

John I must admit that even though I know the runway well by now, I'm now more aware when landing.
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