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Postby DieselFan » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:14 am

I've been told when coming in for landing to look ahead to judge height NOT below, great but what about an outlanding when there are NO bushes, trees or other landmarks?

When looking at videos of Damien and Flying the fish, I get nervous?

Anyone got tips on knowing when to start the roll out etc? Signs to look for to start "pulling" up - should be pushing...?
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Postby Tailspin » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:54 am

:idea: I allways used the little black goodie at the end of the radio antennae to spot my landings like a gun site perfectly line up with the touch down point when landing anywhere :idea:
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Postby Duck Rogers » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:00 pm

demon wrote:Never look straight down.
Look ahead at the runway (or intended runway) about 5-10 meters ahead works for me.
Agree in full. Even 10-15 metres. Forget the landmarks.

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Postby Smiley » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:05 pm

Ditto Deamon and Duck Rogers!!! (^^)
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Postby kb » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:25 pm

I look ahead, about midway down the rwy, and then track my eyes towards me as I get close, end up also about 10 - 15 m away. Beach landings require looking closer sooner, to spot KAK lying on the beach (nekkid ladies etc!!) and also to see if sand is hard / soft.
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Postby Sad-Ham » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:31 am

I found comming in with my eyes open during the landing tends to help a bit too :!: :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Wart » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:38 am

ZU-BPG wrote:I found comming in with my eyes open during the landing tends to help a bit too :!: :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks ZU-BPG, I was wondering what I was doing wrong. I will try that next time. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby salem » Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:11 am

On the other hand, I found that if at 300ft alt. you point the aerie in the general direction of the runway and close your eyes until the aerie has stopped rolling, the landings are much more accurate but a lot less exciting! :wink: [/quote]
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Postby justin.schoeman » Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:29 pm

:oops: Felt like closing my eyes on landing today... Short finals, maybe 30ft up, and get caught in wind shear. Suddenly the left hand wing is pointing almost straight down, and the windsock is coming straight for me!

Was an interesting couple of seconds while I sorted that lot out :roll:

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Postby Morph » Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:34 pm

justin.schoeman wrote::oops: Felt like closing my eyes on landing today... Short finals, maybe 30ft up, and get caught in wind shear. Suddenly the left hand wing is pointing almost straight down, and the windsock is coming straight for me!

Was an interesting couple of seconds while I sorted that lot out :roll:

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I've had that happen in a 3-axis. I call it stirring the pot with the amount of joystick movements you need to do to complete the landing. Never fun, but quite exhilirating when you safely land and realise you actually can do this sort of thing.
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Postby justin.schoeman » Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:57 pm

Yup... I was quite surprised that I actually managed to get it back onto the centreline so quickly. Decided to do a go-around anyway, just for safety sake. Did all subsequent landing with an approach speed of 65kts - hardly felt the wind shear at all ;-) !

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Postby DieselFan » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:54 am

Thanks for all the tips, esp the eyes open one...

Why'd you land at 65kts? For bad wind is it the faster the better?
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Postby Morph » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:36 am

DieselFan wrote:Thanks for all the tips, esp the eyes open one...

Why'd you land at 65kts? For bad wind is it the faster the better?
Yep, I try to be 5MPH faster on approach(NOTE this is for my plane and a 3-axis, specific speeds on your plane could be different). The problem with gusty turbulant conditions is you can slow to stall speed very quickly without noticing. One moment there is a strong gust that lifts the nose and you slow down and suddenly the wind drops and you stall close to the ground :shock: . So rather come in quicker, on power so you can penetrate the wind better.
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Postby justin.schoeman » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:08 am

DieselFan wrote:Thanks for all the tips, esp the eyes open one...

Why'd you land at 65kts? For bad wind is it the faster the better?
The higher your airspeed relative to the rotating component of the wind, the less it affects you (it adds, or subtracts, a smaller percentage of your actual airspeed).

You then burn off the excess airspeed in an extended flare, which is in ground effect, so less affected by turbulence.

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Postby taaipitperske » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:57 pm

Hi
Volgende keer as jy op 'downwind' is, kry die trike presies 'straight and level' en skuif die 'crossbar attachment' op of af teen die 'aerofoil', totdat dit presies in jou silyn op die horison is. Dws soos 'n geweer korrel kyk jy na die horison en die bokant van die "merker" moet net in jou sigveld wys.

As jy nou op 'finals' is, en jy neem krag weg, sal die merker vir jou wys waar jy gaan land. Jy het dus nou tyd vir jouself gespaar, want jy weet jy gaan die aanloopbaan haal, of jy moet bietjie krag gee.

Op so 100voet, trek die vlerk effe terug (so 25-50mm).
Op 'ceiling' hoogte, gee nou die vlerk stadig terug wat jy ingetrek het en die vliegtuig sal sy kop optel.
Wag nou tot die vliegtuig begin 'sink' en druk die vlerk vorentoe, eweredig aan die tempo waarmee hy sak.

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