Microlighters

Sportsplane Rating planes.

Does any one know what types of aircraft will be classified under the Sports Plain catogory.

Will Bush Baybie and Cheta be incluided and wil the plain have to be re regestured or will this rating just applay to the pilots license................?????

Also is there any Bush Babies out there that is rated for PPL oure building?

The plane does not dictate the rating, it your license and instructor who gives you the convex.... If you have MPL (or new license for <600kg) then you fly it on that. If you have PPL, you fly it on that. The instructor that gives you the convex dictates under what lic you fly the aerie, not the plane. They are all registered as NTCA.... If it confors to microlight standards then you are allowed to fly it on MPL, LSL (light sport license) or PPL (<450kg's etc.) If it LSL then you can fly on LSL and PPL (<600kg etc). If it not microlight and not light sport you must have PPL to fly it.... Simple - NOT

I struggle to understand why people struggle to understand this.
Come 1 feb this is how it's going to work. There is a National pilot's license called Recreational pilots licence.
Under that license there will be ratings for the different aircraft.
Those ratings are called weight shift microlight - WSM (trike as known today)
Conventionally Controlled microlight - CCM ( 3-axis aircraft under 450 kg)
Light sport aircraft
Hang glider
paraglider
balloon etc.etc.
Here is the definition of light sport aircraft.
(a) Maximum gross take-off mass (MGTM) of: 600 kg for land planes;
(b) Maximum stall speed with no flaps deployed at MGTM: 45 knots;
(c) Maximum speed in level flight maximum continuous power: 150knots;
(d) Two seats maximum;
(e) Single, non-turbine engine;
(f) Unpressurised cabin.

Your aircarft must comply to all the criteria to be classed as light sport. If it is under 600kg but has a top speed of over 150 knots then it's out and you have to fly it under a PPL license.
If it's under 600 kg but stalls clean at 50 knots - it's out and falls under PPL.
IF you have a PPL license you can fly any of the conventionally controlled micrlights or light sport by just doing the usual differences / conversion training and it's noted in you logbook and off you go. If you have a PPL and you fly a trike you will have to have the RPL license to fly the trike. IF you currently have that(PPL with trike) the grandfather clause will allow you to apply for the RPL license and be issued it without doing the license under the new regulations.

With a PPL you can fly the LSA aircraft and the hours count straight as PPL hours.

Bennie to original bushbaby and perhaps the next Bigger one(can never remember whicih one is which safari or explorer) should fall in the LSA class easily. The biggest one might fall outside that and be PPl only but I'm not quite sure of their exact specs.
Kitfox 1,2,3 will fall under LSA but the kitfox 6,7 will be PPL only.
Cheetah comfortably falls in LSA spec.

If you have an RPL you are restricted to SA only or are you allowed to fly to Rhodesia and Mozambique as well?

So the old Jab SP is out due to its stall speed(49kts)

RPL is a National license not recognised by ICAO so if you want to fly outside the borders then you will have to get written permission from their civil avaition authority that they will accept your license. RAASA/CAA seems to be quite sure that most of Africa will have co-operation and follow our Part62 license so it shouldn't be a problem. But it's not 'automatically' accepted like a PPL.

Any comment on the Jab SP with the high stall speed as German has indicated?

If you are presently a holder of a MPL and flying a Topaz (575kg) do you have to Do a RPL from scratch .
Is there no granfather Clause ?

Same sitaution - if you have LSA ratings on your current MPL it will simply convert into RPL LSA. Didn't discuss that as it was done a couple of times already. Seems there was confusion from PPL guys which is why I went into that.
RAASA made it very clear on Saturday that if an airplane does not conform to ALL the definitions of LSA it will have to be flown on a PPL.
Stick a bundle of vortex generators on the old jabi and see if you can get the stall speed down

Stephan van Tonder wrote:Stick a bundle of vortex generators on the old jabi and see if you can get the stall speed down

The crazy thing is you can fly the old Jabbi with a MPL

What are the chances of them building trikes for the higher weight category?

Weight shift trikes's definition hasn't changed guys. LSA doesn't suddenly allow for a heavy trike. Also 3-axis microlight's definition hasn't changed either. The only difference is that you will now have the 3-axis aircraft over 260kg empty - over 450kg all up and under 600kg in their correct class.
Typically those are the Cheetah, Topaz, Samba, Sabre, JK05 etc. etc. bundle of planes.

Stephan van Tonder wrote:Same sitaution - if you have LSA ratings on your current MPL it will simply convert into RPL LSA. Didn't discuss that as it was done a couple of times already. Seems there was confusion from PPL guys which is why I went into that.
RAASA made it very clear on Saturday that if an airplane does not conform to ALL the definitions of LSA it will have to be flown on a PPL.
Stick a bundle of vortex generators on the old jabi and see if you can get the stall speed down

Stephan, what about guys that have an MPL (conventional) for a plane under 450kg, that will want to buy something in the LSA class AFTER February . Are they going to have to do the new licence in order to get RPL LSA or get it automatically?

Yup they will have to undergo the rating under the new regulations. There are some clauses that allow the instructor that does it to take previous hours into account and some minimum requirements. You could be given off on doing the cross countries at discretion of the instructor and a maximum of 25 hours flight time will be credited. SO You will have to do a minimum of 10 hours basically and you will have to write principles of flight and air law exams.

Somehow I get the feeling people has not actually read the new regulations. Well download them here and have a look through it.
http://misasa.flyeaaforum.com/?p=567

Stephan,
What will happen in the case of my KR2 homebuilt that has a max speed of 120knots. Factory spec's indicate a 165knot top speed when fitted with larger turbo charged engines. Can I fly mine with a RPL?