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RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:50 pm
by Sam
Just to keep you all up to date with what is happening regarding RAASA and Part 62. The latest version of Part 62 amendments is the "First Amendment to Part 62v2" together with Schedule 17 below which is the one that will hopefully be promulgated shortly. These must be read in conjunction with the version available at http://www.caa.co.za/resource%20center/ ... onVol2.pdf . The CATS for Part 62 are presently being worked on and will hopefully be available on date of implementation.

The implementation of RAASA (Recreation Aviation Administration SA) is happening on 1 November 2008. Part 62 was promulgated on 1 January 2008. Subsequent amendments were phased in. Some were promulgated as part of the 33rd Amendment to the CARs. Some amendments are in the process of promulgation and should be part of the 34th Amendment which is expected to be promulgated by the end of this month. RAASA will be up and running from 1 November and will be taking over from CAA for the issuing of both your Authority to Fly and all crew licences. Aircraft licencing and change of ownership will remain with CAA. RAASA will start with dry runs 6 weeks before to try and get out all the glitches.

RAASA will be hosting a road show in major centres around the country to inform the aviators who will be affected by Part 62 as well as the new examination procedures and what RAASA’s functions will be. The meetings will be open to all interested parties but it is in the best interest of all instructors and school operators to try and make it to one of the workshops if they are at all interested in knowing how Part 62 will change their operations and how RAASA will be administering licence applications and Authorities to Fly. It is vital for all CFIs to attend one of these meetings as well as many of their instructors.

Dates set up so far are:

Durban 28 August 2008 10h00 Emoyeni. Contact Geoff on 0823311104 or email geoff@lightflight.co.za

Cape Town 18 September 2008 10h00 Contact Louis van Wyk for venue on 083 675 3541 or email louisvw@iafrica.com

Johannesburg 25 September 2008 14h00 Aero Club boardroom. email nsteyn@aeroclub.org.za

After the first one in Durban, others will be set up for other major centres where required.

The agenda for the meeting will be:


1. Part 62 and examinations

2. Authority to Fly

3. Administration

4. Designated Examiners

Those wishing to attend the different seminars will need to register with the relevant contact person.

SCHEDULE 17

17. PROPOSAL TO AMEND SUB-PART 01 OF PART 24 OF THE SA-CATS-NTCA

17.1 Proposal to amend the index of Part 24 by the addition of the following

P. Light Sport Aeroplanes

1. Design standards

2. Classification parameters

MOTIVATION to allow for light sport aeroplanes

17.2 Proposal to amend sub-part 01.2.A of Part 24 of the CATS by the addition of the following

24.01.2.A.2 (k) ASTM standards on Light Sport Aircraft

MOTIVATION to include the FAA standards for light sport aeroplanes

17.2 Proposal to amend sub-part 01.2 of Part 24 of the CATS by the addition of the following

P. Light Sport Aeroplanes

24.01.2.P.1 Design standards

Non-type certified light sport aeroplanes shall meet the design criteria of either amateur-built aircraft or production built aircraft.

24.01.2.P.2 Classification parameters

(1) For an aeroplane to be classified as a light sport aeroplane, the following parameters need to be met:



(a) Maximum take-off mass of:

(i) 600 kilograms for land planes
(ii) 650 kg for amphibian and sea planes

(b) Maximum stall speed or minimum steady flight speed at maximum take-off mass of 45 Knots (no flaps – Vs1) at standard atmospheric conditions at sea level at most critical C of G

(c) Maximum air speed in level flight with maximum continuous power (Vh) of not more than 140 Knots CAS under standard atmospheric conditions at sea level

(d) Two place maximum

(e) Single reciprocating engine

(f) Unpressurized cabin

(2) For the purpose of establishing conformity with sub-paragraph (1) (a), the following payloads are to be included:

(a) 84 kg per seat,
(b) Oil and other liquids in the engine as required for flight,
(c) The lesser of full fuel load or 60 kg,
(d) luggage mass as allowed by the manufacturer,
(e) Safety rescue system if one is fitted,
(f) all standard and additional equipment and systems as fitted

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:13 pm
by Trikenut
Excuse my ignorance but will this include trikes?? :?
Can these aircraft be flown with MPL?? :?
Sorry! :oops:

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:40 pm
by Uncle Spud Murphy
Here we go, in the Oliphant stuff again!!! (**)

Have to ask the question!! Whats it mean 84kg per seat? Is that referring to a persons weight because I'm 92kg ish?

Avdb (^^)

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:57 pm
by African Grey
AFRICA CUP - Numbi 24th - 28th Sept...bad plannning for JHB date... :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:25 am
by skybound®
Dont forget the Eastern Cape.

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:20 am
by LarryMcG
Yes, dont forget the Eastern Cape!

Lm

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:28 am
by KFA
How about Nelspruit?????? :shock: :shock:

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:15 am
by Morph
Uncle Spud Murphy wrote:Here we go, in the Oliphant stuff again!!! (**)

Have to ask the question!! Whats it mean 84kg per seat? Is that referring to a persons weight because I'm 92kg ish?

Avdb (^^)
No problem. They use these weights as an example for purposes of calculation. The big thing is the Max All Up Weight which cannot exceed 600kg and the manufacturers, max seat weight based on design and weights and balances. Adding weight to the cabin usually moves the center of gravity forward. There is a maximum forward point and a maximum rearward point. You have to remain within these two limits for safe flight. The manufacturer will specify this. A Challenger for example is a tandem seated plane(i.e. pax behind the pilot) . If solo, the minimum weight for the pilot is about 54Kg. If you are lighter than this, Then the center of gravity is too far back and you will struggle to fly the plane. Then you have to add a pax, or a weight to the nose of the plane.
Trikenut wrote:Excuse my ignorance but will this include trikes??
Can these aircraft be flown with MPL??
Sorry!
No, 3-axis only. Trikes will remain covered under Microlight, as will 3-axis aircraft under MAUW of 450kg

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:33 pm
by Trikenut
So Bushbaby's can't be flown??

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:00 pm
by Morph
Trikenut wrote:So Bushbaby's can't be flown??
Bushbaby 450's with 582 engines easily fall within the normal Microlight catagory. Bigger bushy's like the Explorer, especially the 912 based versions will fall within this new catagory

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:27 pm
by Trikenut
:( :( :cry:
This has NOT made my day!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:36 pm
by AndyG
Thought you were a trikenut. Why so sad about the bush baby?

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:56 pm
by Trikenut
leftseat wrote:Thought you were a trikenut. Why so sad about the bush baby?
I'm Nutty, Period! :lol:
I have always wanted to do my trike licence before converting to 3 Axis...

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:43 am
by African Grey
The Updated Air Law volumes (1,2 and 3) are now available for download on the CAA website...

The Recreational Pilot Licence will cover all of the A/C under Aeroclub:
Microlights (Conventional and Weight Shift)
Gliders
Baloons
Gyroplanes
Hang Gliders
Paragliders / Powered

The licence qualifications for the Class Ratings have not really changed that much. Still minimum 20hrs and 10 Hrs Solo for a trike. The annual hours are up to 5hrs to keep current. (See: Vol 2 Pg 458 - 62.05.2 (1) ) There will be a split in Conventionl and Weight Shift classes though. Conventional also requiring 20Hrs minimum flying (See Vol 2 Pg 454 - 62.04.2)

Medical still remains as Class 4 although Instructors becomes Class 2

Instructors for Conventional must have at least 100Hrs and 5 different Types to train... :shock: :shock:

The definition for a Microlight is Confusing - It is stated in - Vol 1 Pg 644 "microlight aeroplane' means an aeroplane the EMPTY MASS of which does not exceed 450 kilograms" (Substitution of the definition of "microlight aeroplane" by GNR 146 of January 1998)

BUT then it is stated further in the (CATS)

Minimum Speed Vol 3 Pg 257 Schedule 1 - 65km/hr - Take Off according to a formula
The MAUW seems to remain at 450 KG - 2 Seater Land - Pg 714 - Part 24.01.2.E.2

We need to get some clarity on what the exact Regs are...

Re: RAASA & PART 62 WORKSHOPS

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:45 am
by African Grey
Also a question I sent to CAA - Avcom.co.za

"Air Law Vol 2 Pg 454 Part 62.04.2 (4) "Experience for Conventional Microlight" it states "applicant shall have completed not less than 100 hours as pilot......and hold at least 5 ratings by name for conventional microlight aeroplanes" Surely this is incorrect...?
It is the same requirement as a Conventional Microlight Instructors Rating..."

Doesn't look right ... :shock: :shock: :shock: