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New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:55 pm
by cap232
Hello people,

I`m new here and cant stop reading through this site.

My name is Andre and I reside in Centurion(GP). I`m a wanna build my own airplane nut. I decided that a blik aerie looks like somethin I`ll be able to manage, scratch that is, and ordered a set of plans for a zodiac 601xl.
Now that the paperwork is here and after I spoke to a few people it looks like I`m not gonna be able to get 6061 t6.

Zenair even specifies Avex rivets and then only certain batches out of the UK, can this be possible?

Some people say you can get locally produced 6061 but it doesnt`t have the pedigree and paperwork that the imported alli has, Also where does one source it locally if available....help pleeease!!

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:18 pm
by John Boucher
Speak to John Waterson - they build the Savannah and is the process is not much different to that of yours.

Robin Coss at Coss Aviation is always helpful.

There is an RV builders website with okes in PE...

Speak to our building fundi on microlighters - the one and only BOET - always great to talk to the man down under @ Loeriesfontein!

http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/xl-price.html

Check it out....

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:54 pm
by swiftprop
Hi cap232
Welcome to one of the most addictive sites to the internet!
Have a look at the texhnical posts as well. See the Carl Babst Raven/ Zodiac 601 posts as well as those on VW engines. Why dont you contact Carl Babst as he sells from parts (kit) to completed aircraft. Most people buy the kits from him at whatever stage they want and do the rest. I'm sure he can even supply just the flat aircraft grade aluminium.
Best wishes
Andre

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:05 am
by grostek
Hi Andre.

Welcome to the forum.

Join the EAA they have a website here and will help you through the process of building your own aircraft. A lot of usefull info there.

http://www.eaa.org.za/index.php

Get a build number from CAA before you spend too much money. This build number is the OK from the CAA that you may build your own aircraft and be able to register it when completed.

Team up with an AP Approved Person who will keep an eye on your work and will be a guide as well as inspire you to keep going.He will sign off the various stages of construction. This is a requirement from CAA.

Keep documents off your work progress. Photos are usefull as well and you can then share them with us as you progress. vhpy vhpy

For 6061 T6 phone Alclad Services shown below, they have stock of almost everything you may need to scratch build a 601.
They import regularly.

Alclad Services
Aluminum sheet metal
Discount: 20% (if you are a member of EAA)
Area: Lanseria Airport
Website: www.alclad.co.za
Contact: Russell/Ed
Phone: 011 659-1317
E-Mail: alclad@iafrica.com

Aluminium City also have 6061T6 occasionally.Look up the number in the Yellow Pages.I dont have it offhand

Also contact Kobus van Staden of Steel metal & Tool Supplier, 516 Commissioner St Boksburg 011-914-2651. He may also be able to help you.

For Avex Rivets contact Avlock, they are off Atlas road in the Industrial area They have stock of 1/8 and 5/32 Countersunk rivets that you will need to build your 601. The rivets they manufacture are of good quality and will not be below standard.


Avlock International (Proprietary) Ltd.
International Private company
PO Box 6394, Dunswart, , South Africa
Tel011 917 2110,
Fax 011 917 0260
http://www.avlock.co.za

For the solid rivets that you will need for the wing Spars contact Placo at Rand Airport.They are also agents for Aircraft Spruce and Speciality in the USA where you can buy almost anything you need to build an aircraft. Placo buy in bulk and import in bulk so they are invariably cheaper than trying to import the goods yourself.

For Rotax Engines contact Aviation Engines 011 455 4203

For VW engines if you want to go that route contact Eric Addisson he build VW engines for aircraft use,he has also build several Zodiac 601's so he will be very familiar with the requirements to fly a 601 safely.

You can contact Eric on
083 443 0319 or
011 362 5505 a/h

Good luck with your project.

Kind regards,

Gunter Rostek.

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:43 am
by John Boucher
And you sit in Dubai with all that info.....?

That is what I love about this forum.... Thank you Grostek!

Also check out the Projects here on Microlighters.... (^^)

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:56 pm
by grostek
Hi John,

Wish I was back in SA putting it all to good use.



Kind regards,

Gunter Rostek.

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:02 pm
by swiftprop
Hi Gunter
With the amount of useful info you are waliking around with in your head I'm sure you can start up a homebuilt consulting service and charge for it! Thanks for sharing with all of us for free! vhpy vhpy
Best wishes'
Andre

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:09 am
by grostek
Hi All,

That is what this forum is all about.

Sharing.

We are all passionate about aviation especially the grassroots type and I believe that we all share whatever we know because it makes our forum and aviation environment a nicer place to be in.

This is a forum full of like minded people and makes this forum rather special.

Kind regards,

Gunter Rostek

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:51 am
by Grumpy
grostek wrote:Hi All,

That is what this forum is all about.

Sharing.

We are all passionate about aviation especially the grassroots type and I believe that we all share whatever we know because it makes our forum and aviation environment a nicer place to be in.

This is a forum full of like minded people and makes this forum rather special.

Kind regards,

Gunter Rostek
Gunter, Your attitude is commendable !!!

Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:43 pm
by Bennie Vorster
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Email: info@bunduaviation.com
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Re: New to Microlighters and 6061 help!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:37 pm
by cap232
Thanks guys and thanks for the informative reply Gunter, really much appreciated.

I`m also waiting for plans for a 8ft bending brake from this guy. http://www.macsmachine.com.
go have look, very informative, and he responded within a day. I also ordered the plans for the dual stick option on the 601.

On another discussion you oaks were talking about the hks and somewhere the bmw machine also got mentioned, a swiss guy building a Cherry BX2,what a good lookin aeri. http://www.spang-air.de/willkommen/Welcome/welcome.html have some info on the bmw motor.

Andre