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HIRTH 3502 E
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:59 am
by Hot Stuff
Anyone know of the Hirth 3502 E, has the same mountings as the Rotax. This motor is 60hp with a 1000hrs crank change. Anyone have any idea of the price including shipment, and any advise concerning the motor
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:12 am
by grostek
Hi Batman,
For info go to the following link
http://www.hirth-engines.de/deutsch/index.htm
This is a new motor.
It says the motor will be avaiable in Spring 2008, so I guess that means aroundMay 2008.
As to the Crank, the text clearly states TBO is 1000hours and Warranty on Crank 3 Years, so the way I read it if you only fly 100 hours per year, you end up with the same 300 hour crank change as with Rotax.
If you fly 200 or even more hours per year then of course you get more value for your money because you now get 600 hours or more before the Warranty expires.
In all of this I am assuming that CAA will take expiry of warranty to mean crank needs replacement.
Kind regards,
Gunter Rostek
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:37 am
by Morph
It will require a different engine mount
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:55 am
by John Boucher
I interpret it differently...
TBO is 1000 hours - Rotax says theirs is 300hrs
The warranty covers crank failure within 3 years. Therefore 333.3 hours per annum to get the benefit of the warranty!
The older engines were seriously unreliable but it seems the newer generation is spot on!
Just curious... what is Rotax's warranty on a crank if any?
hmmmmm, just asking!

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:19 pm
by Flightstar
Wat sou so 'n enjin kos?
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:30 pm
by nicow
...en wat kos 'n Volksie enjin?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:45 pm
by grostek
See this link for VW based aero engines
www.greatplainsas.com
Kind regards,
Gunter Rostek
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:16 am
by Gadget
Hi Guys. I received the following information from the local agent. Please note that these are guidelines only. I think I may be buying one shortly.
The 3502V motor with Std exhaust Euro 3577.00
Dual ignition, electronic Euro 403.00
Ignition switch for dual electronic ignition (start, pos. 1, 1+2, stop) Euro 78.00
Rubber elements, break-off proof 4 x 12 mm Euro 65.00
Gearbox incl. damper G 50 Euro 602.00
Radiator / aluminium (recommended for water-cooled 2-cylinder engines) Euro 112.00
Total listed above. Euro 4837.00
There are still other components like Engine bolts and engine Gauges that could be added to the quote
Prices include vat but not including Shipping costs from Germany until the official quote is received
Hirth
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:50 am
by John Boucher
A photie of the engine you are talking about....
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:22 pm
by Aerosan
Looks neat and tidy doesnt it? I like.....

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:58 pm
by Gadget
Hi BAD NAV. Here is another link you can look at.
http://www.recpower.com/3502.htm
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:55 pm
by John Boucher
Take note of the carb mounting positions between the two sites...
It seems the one uses reed valves?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:19 pm
by Ranger
The one is carb and the other is fuel injection. Beautiful motor. Neat uncluttered but sigh. IIIII've got my ATF, IIIIIIIIIII've got my ATF,Whe whe whe whe whhheeeeee. He he he. I can go flyyyyy, I can go and flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. He he he he. 3 hours a yeeeeaaaaaaaaaar.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:22 pm
by John Boucher

Well done Ranger.... 3 hours a year aint going to help you if CAA says you have to fly a minimum of say 10 hours a year to stay current (hypothetical)
The barrels of the photo I posted shows a mounting point for some intake above the carbs. This lets me believe that they also used for something else!
interesting
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:33 pm
by freetoadventure
look like and interesting option ...