Part 62 Bull $Hi@@ or not

[t-bird]

What is happening with part 62?

The financial effect of non-implementation on me was/is the following:

When doing my GPL I had to do a whole licences with NAV’s and everything even after a MPL with 130 hours. I was solo after 4 hours. So it would have taken me + - another 15 hours, with all the nav tests it was 30 hours in total. +-10 additional Hours at R 400 per hour = R 4 000.

I now need to renew my MPL; on part 62 it would not be necessary as there would be one license with a T-bird and Magni on it. So another 5 hours of hire and fly at R 400 per hour another R 2 000.

I am looking at a business opportunity and want to do everything per the book. As per Part 62 there would be a commercial pilots license for MPL , but at the moment there is nothing. I would probable need to do a PPL comm with a MPL and GPL rating on it. +- 120 hours and classes and, and, and.

Can mike2fly far inform as on the process, as this thing has been dragging on for the last 3 years.

As per his post under “Official notices “he mentioned twice that they are busy with regulations. Can we assume Part 62?

[RudiGreyling]

Ditto. I would also like to know. Keep us updated. Thanx, Rudi

[Smiley]

I spoke to somebody at CAA about 1 year ago and he said that a commercial license for microlights/gliders and gyro's were approved by whoever...! They now need to do the paperwork, rules/regulations, all the specifics around the license, subjects etc etc etc...! They told me it would probably take another 2/3 years to get this done and only then this license will be implemented......

[Bennie Vorster]

I spoke to somebody at CAA about 1 year ago and he said that a commercial license for microlights/gliders and gyro's were approved by whoever...! They now need to do the paperwork, rules/regulations, all the specifics around the license, subjects etc etc etc...! They told me it would probably take another 2/3 years to get this done and only then this license will be implemented......

But unfortenatly the guy that need to sighn it off is still on leave, or is that paid suspention.

[Smiley]

I spoke to somebody at CAA about 1 year ago and he said that a commercial license for microlights/gliders and gyro's were approved by whoever...! They now need to do the paperwork, rules/regulations, all the specifics around the license, subjects etc etc etc...! They told me it would probably take another 2/3 years to get this done and only then this license will be implemented......

But unfortenatly the guy that need to sighn it off is still on leave, or is that paid suspention.

Yip Bennie, CAA is not very efficient. I send them emails to an address they supply me and I get no feedback or it takes about a month.....

[t-bird]

Are we going to do crisis control each time there is an accident or x-ponder issue?

Why not be proactive and implement a proper system?

There was a lot of work done on the drafting of part 62, why not finish the project?

Part 62 will put us in line with the international flying community.

[mike2flyfar]

I do not always get to reading all the posts - please pop me a mail directly if you have a question like this ... it saves me missing it by mistake. mike@aviation-engines.co.za. Thanks.

Part 62 will probably be promulgated and in place early/mid next year. Every time we think we have made progress there is some new holdup - it's crazy how long these things take and very frustrating.

This is what I received from Neil at the Aeroclub this week:
It is my pleasure to inform you of the status of the 26th Amendment.
It was confirmed this morning that Part 62, as approved at the CARCOM meeting was submitted to the Commissioner, and pending his approval, this will be submitted for translation and subsequently to the Minister for promulgation.

Ciao
Mike

[t-bird]

Thanks Mike

Please inform us of any developments.

We need a proper structure to manage light aircraft in South Africa.

I lot of damage was caused by fly by night and illegal operations in the past.

There is a lot of grey area especially with the commercial side at the moment.

If an accident happens when rules are broken, then the press can blame the pilot and not aviation.

[Biggles]

Update!!

From http://www.awsa.co.za/pdf_files/AeCSA_R ... Aug_06.pdf

Aeroclub press release:

6. Part 62 promulgation
On a question as to the status of the implementation of this long awaited regulation, the
Aero Club was advised that a commitment with ICAO (International Civil Aviation
Organisation) has been made which entails the submission of the 26th Amendment by
close of business on 31 August 2006.
The Aero Club was further advised that two definitions relating to terms in Part 62 were
omitted, and that this will cause Part 62 to fall out of the 26th Amendment.
This is hugely upsetting to the Aero Club and the affected industry.
The Commissioner, assisted by the legal department of the CAA then undertook that,
pending the approval by the members CARCOM, this could be rectified in two to three
weeks, and that Part 62 will be singularly constitute the 27th Amendment.
The Aero Club is satisfied that this is achievable, and will advise as progress is made.

[Tobie de Beer]

Biggles,

I'ts been almost two weeks now - is there any news?

[IFLYHI]

Biggles,

I'ts been almost two weeks now - is there any news?

In the MISASA news letter

Part 62 promulgation
On a question as to the status of the implementation of this long awaited regulation, the Aero Club was advised that a commitment with ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) has been made which entails the submission of the 26th Amendment by close of business on 31 August 2006.
The Aero Club was further advised that two definitions relating to terms in Part 62 were omitted, and that this will cause Part 62 to fall out of the 26th Amendment.
This is hugely upsetting to the Aero Club and the affected industry.
The Commissioner, assisted by the legal department of the CAA then undertook that, pending the approval by the members CARCOM, this could be rectified in two to three weeks, and that Part 62 will be singularly constitute the 27th Amendment.
The Aero Club is satisfied that this is achievable, and will advise as progress is made.

Edit:
Learn to read properly

[Tobie de Beer]

Mybe I'm stupid! - First of all I'm not english speaking....

It said:

... this could be rectified in two to three weeks, and that Part 62 will be singularly constitute the 27th Amendment.
The Aero Club is satisfied that this is achievable, and will advise as progress is made.

So: is the two to three weeks still on track or did it become another year or two.

Or: is there specific date to amendments that I don't know of.

Or: are we stilll waiting for CARCOM ?

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As I understand: two weeks ago it was still not approved, but would be soon, if everything runs smoothly.

[Fairy Flycatcher]

Another bit of setback is that CAA is without a Commissioner again!

I know everyone is trying to drive it, but once the wheel has come off the spokes just dig in