AP Scheme usage amd membership clarrification
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:25 pm
Statement
Maintenance of recreational aircraft most of which are NTCA has had provision made by the AeCSA for many years via our Authorised Persons’ Scheme commonly refered to as the AP Scheme.
This scheme was developed by AeCSA specifically to keep the cost of recreational and sporting aviation to a minimum.
Should members of aviation community using aircraft for the sport and recreation and mostly NTCA aircaft wish to have their aircraft maintained by AP's then they need to be an Aero Club member.
One cannot be an Aero Club member with out being a member of a relevent section. So simply, as an example, if you own a LSA aircaft and you wish to use the services of an AP then both the owner and the AP have to be members of Aero Club. AP can only be AP's if they are members of Aero Club.
One cannot be a member of aeroclub unless also being a member of at least one section. Normally members join a relevent section as is indicated in the CAR's.
To be a member of Aero Club in this case above, one would generally to be a member of MISASA although some choose to be members of EAA or if they compete with their LSA in Rallies and Navigation activities/ competitions join SAPFA. AeCSA does not prescribe as members have freedom of choice and association as is their constitutional right.
The AMO route can be used and but generally the AP route is much more cost effective than the normal AMOs and AMEs routes.
Often AP's have done an inspection for free and this is especially true in the club scene with club aircraft.
RAASA checks on paperwork submitted for ATF's if an AP has signed off that the both owner of the aircraft and teh AP is a member of AeCSA.
Please note some AMO's also have AP to work on some NTCA aircraft and thus again the requirments of being members of aeCSA and a relevant section comes in to play again.
If MISASA members have renewed through the new fundi system, then RAASA and AeCSA can see immediately if a member is current.
While the AeCSA Card is a proof of membership - confirmation with AeCSA is simple and most sections will have administartion rights to the fundi system to confirm membership status.
If a member has paid MISASA directly, or any other section for that matter, and not used the Fundi system then this information may not be readily available until after the monthly recon between MISASA and AeCSA. Hopefully as the Fundi system becomes the central data base this "lag" should abate.
Please note most sections admin is operated by volunteers and thus recons are not possible at regular intervals. This must be taken into consideration.
To assist RAASA and AeCSA, should a member have gone the section payment route of AeCSA fees, then proof of payment can be furnished to clarrify this. There is no way if a member arrives at RAASA and they check to issue the ATF, that AeCSA can confirm this unless we have a recon from MISASA or we can see the member status on our Fundi System. Hopefully as the Fundi System becomes the standard system we will see these problems abate.
The relationship between RAASA and AeCSA is co-operative, but it must be noted that AeCSA performs the role of watch dog for the recreational industry in regards to actions and plans that RAASA may wish to implement, but this is generally done via consultation which both organisations respect and openly embrace. RAASA provides oversight on Aero Club’s Approved Persons’ (AP) scheme and its technical committee. They also keep a close eye on each of the sections in regards to administrative functions and regulatory infringements. They are deeply involved in ensuring safety matters at aviation events.
We trust this clarrifies the AP scheme and the membership requirement status to make use of it.
Maintenance of recreational aircraft most of which are NTCA has had provision made by the AeCSA for many years via our Authorised Persons’ Scheme commonly refered to as the AP Scheme.
This scheme was developed by AeCSA specifically to keep the cost of recreational and sporting aviation to a minimum.
Should members of aviation community using aircraft for the sport and recreation and mostly NTCA aircaft wish to have their aircraft maintained by AP's then they need to be an Aero Club member.
One cannot be an Aero Club member with out being a member of a relevent section. So simply, as an example, if you own a LSA aircaft and you wish to use the services of an AP then both the owner and the AP have to be members of Aero Club. AP can only be AP's if they are members of Aero Club.
One cannot be a member of aeroclub unless also being a member of at least one section. Normally members join a relevent section as is indicated in the CAR's.
To be a member of Aero Club in this case above, one would generally to be a member of MISASA although some choose to be members of EAA or if they compete with their LSA in Rallies and Navigation activities/ competitions join SAPFA. AeCSA does not prescribe as members have freedom of choice and association as is their constitutional right.
The AMO route can be used and but generally the AP route is much more cost effective than the normal AMOs and AMEs routes.
Often AP's have done an inspection for free and this is especially true in the club scene with club aircraft.
RAASA checks on paperwork submitted for ATF's if an AP has signed off that the both owner of the aircraft and teh AP is a member of AeCSA.
Please note some AMO's also have AP to work on some NTCA aircraft and thus again the requirments of being members of aeCSA and a relevant section comes in to play again.
If MISASA members have renewed through the new fundi system, then RAASA and AeCSA can see immediately if a member is current.
While the AeCSA Card is a proof of membership - confirmation with AeCSA is simple and most sections will have administartion rights to the fundi system to confirm membership status.
If a member has paid MISASA directly, or any other section for that matter, and not used the Fundi system then this information may not be readily available until after the monthly recon between MISASA and AeCSA. Hopefully as the Fundi system becomes the central data base this "lag" should abate.
Please note most sections admin is operated by volunteers and thus recons are not possible at regular intervals. This must be taken into consideration.
To assist RAASA and AeCSA, should a member have gone the section payment route of AeCSA fees, then proof of payment can be furnished to clarrify this. There is no way if a member arrives at RAASA and they check to issue the ATF, that AeCSA can confirm this unless we have a recon from MISASA or we can see the member status on our Fundi System. Hopefully as the Fundi System becomes the standard system we will see these problems abate.
The relationship between RAASA and AeCSA is co-operative, but it must be noted that AeCSA performs the role of watch dog for the recreational industry in regards to actions and plans that RAASA may wish to implement, but this is generally done via consultation which both organisations respect and openly embrace. RAASA provides oversight on Aero Club’s Approved Persons’ (AP) scheme and its technical committee. They also keep a close eye on each of the sections in regards to administrative functions and regulatory infringements. They are deeply involved in ensuring safety matters at aviation events.
We trust this clarrifies the AP scheme and the membership requirement status to make use of it.