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What would you do ?

Postby Low Level » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:02 pm

Before flight you do radio check - 5/5. Take off, do a circuit - but the circuit is too busy, cause it is a training field where you hangar. Go for some flying, doing radio calls, listening to traffic etc. vhpy
On returning to the field there is three planes in the circuit, and one has just done a touch - before the go. You hear on the radio one of the pilots in the circuit is on his solo flight. 8)

But now, when you're done overhead and on your way to join the circuit, the guys in the circuit starts giving you crap - then you realise somewhere along the line your transmissions were going nowhere. You can hear, but no speak. :shock: The circuit is not gonna get quiet soon, cause there's pilots in the training. :(

........and if your radio goes dead you also cannot hear, would you do it different ?

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Re: What would you do ?

Postby justin.schoeman » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:09 pm

Uncontrolled airfield? Go ahead and land, but keep those eyes on stalks!!!

Good for the guys doing training to learn first-hand that there may be aircraft in the circuit without radios...
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:18 pm

Make radio calls as normal and fly the circuit...
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby Tumbleweed » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:56 pm

Or stay circling overhead visibly till the student has landed and vacated.
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby Africa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:19 pm

no one has the right to give you crap about that. anyones radio can fail and to assume that you just did not call is juvenille. we are all adults and i am not sure why some instructors think that the sky Gods are apon them to take matters into their hands to kak you out. there are procedures to joining a field without a radio and if you followed that procedure then you have nothing to worry about. The instructors have radio contact with those students and it takes nothing to ask the student to extend his/her circuit to allow another plane to land. The sky belongs to all. don't forget that
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby RV4ker (RIP) » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:38 pm

I landed at Tempe when they had the Freq change (the day of the change). Found it strange that none of the other buggers were talking to me. Joined, made all the calls etc. and asked school what the story was. They said I was 4th guy in that morning to be on wrong (old) freq. There were 5 aeries and 2 choppers in the circuit. Not a big deal if you do what folks expect you to do, which is fly the circuit and land.... puff
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby bobthebuilder » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:54 pm

I had a similar incident a couple of months back.

When I returned to the field, and joined the circuit, Marc Gregson, who was also in circuit realised that I may have had a radio problem because, although no calls were heard, there was a "click" sound when I hit the PTT. We then established that one click on the PTT means "no", and two clicks means "yes", and worked out the details from there.
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby Tailspin » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:55 am

Have had a Similar problem except i could send but could not hear anything.
I carried on doing the calls as usual and buzzed around the area thinking to myself that Damn it is very quiet on the air today :?:
When on the ground i could hear fine but once in the air NOTHING :shock:

When i chatted to the guys after i heared that they could hear me fine but i was just not recieving.

So as long as you follow the procedures and do as you would normally and you should be Fine.

The Dude that gave you crap is just insecure and you should forgive him for feeling scared about situation :twisted:

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Re: What would you do ?

Postby Alpha » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:24 am

I also had a similar incident when I flew into kuruman. That day kimberley flying school was doing circuits with a student, they heard I had a problem as i did not hear any responses, however they could hear me.

I did a call to mention possible radio problem, joined overhead and proceeded to join downwind leg.

Student flew straight past me in the circuit and when we landed the instructor ran to me to apologise as they were aware of the radio problem and were aware I was 1 on finals but did not take action.

Moral of the story, continue as you do when entreing a circuit, but make your calls as you would if nothing was wrong, most important, keep a lookout for other traffic as you need to anticipate their actions...

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Re: What would you do ?

Postby Low Level » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:23 pm

Africa wrote:we are all adults and i am not sure why some instructors think that the sky Gods are apon them to take matters into their hands to kak you out.
Tailspin wrote:The Dude that gave you crap is just insecure and you should forgive him for feeling scared about situation
I was a bit harsh about that. While in the circuit one of the guys just had something to say about this plane joining overhead and in the circuit without radio calls. That is when I realised I had tx silence. :?

Thanx for the replies.

Thankfully one of the times I met up with old no7 in the air, and after some serious hand signalling, he realised my problem and guided me into Kitty Hawk while doing my radio calls for me. 8) On the ground we realised that one of the wires on my microphone jack broke off while flying.

The other time I flew from FABB to Rhino. At Rhino park I found out my radio does not transmit on any frequency above 130.00. It receives perfect but silence on tx. The rest of the frequencies it worked fine. :?
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Re: What would you do ?

Postby justin.schoeman » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:48 pm

Just being picky here, but technically, if you suspect you have a radio problem, continue transmitting as normal, but prefix all your calls with '<callsign> transmitting blind'...

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