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Jis manne , sometimes I thinks that some okes must ask their money back when they speak on the radio . Saturday morning we was flying to the sout pan krater an some okes from KROON was taking over the 128,4frequency all the time just speaking rubbish and blocking all the time . the only understandable words spoke was CKC AND i thinks DUT . please ous we want to fly safe in this area and dont want to listen your small talk about taking jou ma for a flip near the red and white tower and kroon airfield , here we we fly we give all a fair time to communicte on the radio .
EK se maar net gee die anner manne ok n kans of praat op die chat frekwensie .Willempie van die vlakte

Well said Willem

SO Im NOT the only one who feels that way - I flew for 2 1/2 Hours on saturday morning and that Radio was not silent once - Jeepers but the okes were speaking Cr@P -

Similar experience on Sunday flying back from the BattleFields fly in, and there was a flock, squadron, group etc of Cubby's who insisted, despite at least two requests to go chat, to compare altitude, speeds, winds, cylinder head temps, fuel flows etc on 124.8.

Junnu ouens maar julle is lekke deur die poefies.

Ons was op 123.45 die hele tyd met 'n filmcru op die grond wat op 123.45 ingeskakel was om die voice van die aanbieder te kan record.

As ek te veel op 123.45 gepraat het, sorry vir jou, dit is die strontpraat frekwensie en ek sal stront praat op 123.45 as ek wil. Ek het al baie ander kere gevind dat 123.45 te besig was en moes dan 123.475 gebruik.

Van 124.8 stem ek saam, hou dit kort en op die punt af.

Were talking about 124.80 Dawid - okes use it to talk k@K - its a public channel.... do whatever you want on 123.45 at least we then dont have to listen to it ...

...as well as keeping it short and sweet, not the old testament version.. I'm sure that some of the talkers on 124.4 would have also given the color of their aircraft if they had half a chance ...

I understand your frustration guys seem some of the newer converts to aviation dont respect radio discipline, unfortunaly its going the same way as most things in life........downhill,

I am in the UK and if its any consulation we have the same problem here the VHF being trated like a glorified CB radio set-up,

I see some of you guys use 123.45 and you call it a free channel, hear in the UK pilots have been asking for a dedicated air to air freq for many years without luck with some using 123.45 but being carfull not to use callsigns as our CAA deem it illegal but we hear of commercial traffic using it for non essential transmissions all the time pilot to pilot, do I understand that 123.45 is available to use for air-air in SA legally,

If there were some freely available air-air freqs maybe this annoying chit chat and banter we all have to put up with could be discouraged allowing us to concentrate on our flying without distraction.

Nick.

Agreed, I was in the air Saturday morning too and radio on 124.80 was a little more crazy than normal - I cannot confirm that it was CKC doing all the talking as I stopped listening after a while with all the nonsense being said - This is the danger, okes talk so much str*ont that after a while you may not take notice of important calls being made

Also, If you have just taken off from Kokeriba you don't have to make 3 calls before you have even reached roodekoppies dam 3 miles away - Totally unneccesary, especially if there is nobody around who has reported a conflict after your first call


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124.80 at 06h30 is dead quite ... so we think.

Then I climb (early morning) another 1000ft and I hear personal chats between sky-divers at Potch and Naboom or Warmbaths, trikes over private airfields calling positions, downwind, base and finals.

Witwillem has a very valid point.

Your personal chat on a (you think) silent frequency does affect others.

A couple of weeks ago the blik aeries had a SAA fly-inn at Mabula (?) and they used 124.80 calling circuits at Mabula. The airwves were litterally blocked for 5 minutes at a time by them. At the same time on that Sunday morning there were 5 planes (me included) around the Dam, and we had no time calling positions.

I suggest that early morning flights from small airfields should use 123.45 on the deck and in flight, and one pilot is then nominated to do information transmissions on 124.80 on dual frequency watch. Majority of our radios have dual watch.

Anyway, that is what we do when we fly a gaggle out of FABS.

We often get this here in Cape Town.

Its a pain for everyone and I find that as a student it is irritating. Whenever I need to talk to Louis (My instructor) about something I can't because someone is talking on the radio and: 1, he can't hear me over the noise of the radio and; 2, I need to listen in case the people say something important.

I have, on a few occasions needed to ask him a questions in a situation like final approach and I can't talk because people are gossiping on the radio.

Its ok to recognise a call sign and say: Hi, how are you? But please don't discuss the last business deal you did!

Just my 2c
Ross

Trikenut, my sentiments exaclty.. practising stalls, which you dont want to bugger around with, and then some from somewhere presents a disertation!

While I agree about the chatter (I have been guilty of it at times ), when you need to talk to destructor or concentrate, turn the volume on the radio down and the vol on the intercom up. Remember some folks do not vene have radio's...

RV4ker wrote:While I agree about the chatter (I have been guilty of it at times ), when you need to talk to destructor or concentrate, turn the volume on the radio down and the vol on the intercom up. Remember some folks do not vene have radio's...

Have to agree. Although radio clutter can be very irretating, I have turned off my radio in past to enjoy my flying more. You need to remember that we fly VFR. So, stop looking at your radio and start looking for other aircraft.

Wargames you are 100%!!! fly VFR and look more than listen.