Important NOTAMs re Airspace Restrictions This Week!!

[John Boucher]

Well Stefan... very much the same way as BBBEEE has affected my business and others...

It is just a circular endless black hole sucking in everything.... pun intended!

[KFA]

I hear you. I have no problem with th restrictions this week, it's raining mostly anyway, but next week is another story.

[kloot piloot]

BOOOOOOOO ....

[Bundy]

I cant see any logical reason for these restrictions to be extended? All the big wigs will have left by then....and the real big ones already have.

But this is SA..where reason and logic are somewhat of a myth....

[kloot piloot]

I have no problem with th restrictions this week, but next week is another story.

Doing business and running your own company in SA has become very trying, to say the least. Strongs there Stefan.
Just in one week,
At home Monday and Tuesday: 1 Eskdom phase out - cannot pump water
At office: Monday no Municipal water, Tuesday no electricity due to cable theft, this morning no electricity in Queenswood, Kilner Park, Silverton
Street closures in Pretoria. Add 45 minutes to each trip from home to office
Tuesday halve of my employees do not pitch because their Putco busses were withdrawn (without notice) for transport to Soccer City.

I would have made more money by just staying at home this whole week.

No wonder the crowd BOOOOO'd JZ on Tuesday. Die mense is gatvol ...

[Bundy]

Apparently...the rumor about the extention till 19th is about to be official....

Watch out for the Notam....

Klomp K@K!

[John Boucher]

Chaps... this is coming from the State!

The SAAF & ATNS chaps just have to fall in with Numero Uno.

Spoke to Heksie and let me tell you, the controllers and all support staff are moeg, dead tired!

By Tuesday most of the hoy-paloys will be on their merry way.

We wait to hear what the official cut-off date is. Hulle sê mos - Een man se dood is 'n ander man se brood en dan weer maar net weer 'n ander een se dood!

Bose kringloop!

[Splinter]

Took me about 30 minutes to get a FAC an file a flight plan for a flight tomorrow, so at least there is some acceptable service. I really feel for the guys that do not have a transponder or cant do business. You are not allowed to fly your microlight but some fake sign language dude gets in right next to the most powerful man in the world and suddenly no one knows how he got there.

[kloot piloot]

Took me about 30 minutes to get a FAC an file a flight plan for a flight tomorrow, so at least there is some acceptable service.

Fully agree. My one FAC application to fly tomorrow afternoon was e-mailed to them at 07h30 and the authorization arrived by return mail just before 09h00. Fantastice service.

[John.com]

The NOTAM that affects most of us Vaalies is still showing ending at 22:00Z on 14th December, so technically we can fly on Sunday!

Please tell me if I am wrong, as I am making preparations!



Here is the NOTAM, just downloaded:

A4232/13 NOTAMN
A) FAOR
B) 1312082201 C) 1312142200
E) 1. MILITARY ADIZ DECLARED, ENCOMPASSED BY A 50NM RADIUS CIRCLE AROUND VOR JSV (260925.62S 0281351.69E). THIS ADIZ INCLUDES ALL EXISTING PROMULGATED AIRSPACE.
2. NML PUBLISHED PROC TO ENTER AIRSPACE LISTED ABOVE ARE TO BE
COMPLIED WITH.
3. IN ADDITION ALL FLT, INCLUDING STATE AND SCHEDULED FLT, FLYING
WI THE ADIZ SHALL APPLY TO THE SOUTH AFRICAN AIR FORCE (SAAF) FOR AUTHORISATION AT LEAST H24 PRIOR TO COMMENCING THE FLIGHT.
4. ALL FLT OPERATING WI THE LATERAL BOUNDARIES OF THIS AIRSPACE ARE
TO SUBMIT ATS FPL CONTAINING THE FLIGHT AUTHORISATION CODE (FAC) IN
ITEM 18 OF THE FPL, EG RMK/FAC...........
5. ALL FLT OPERATING WI THE LATERAL BOUNDARIES OF THIS AIRSPACE MUST
BE TRANSPONDER EQUIPPED.
6. APPLICATIONS FOR FLIGHT AUTHORISATION CAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE
SOUTH AFRICAN AIR FORCE (SAAF) VIA E-MAIL OR TELEPHONICALLY TO THE
FLW: FLIGHTAUTHO(AT)TELKOMSA.NET OR 2712 3122626.
AUTHORISATION OFFICE WILL BE MANNED H24 PER DAY FM 07 DEC 13 0600.
7. SCHEDULED OPERATORS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE SCHEDULE OF
PLANNED FLIGHTS TRANSITING THE ADIZ OVER THE AFFECTED PERIOD. A FAC NUMBER WILL BE ISSUED FOR EACH FLIGHT ACCORDING TO THE SUPPLIED SCHEDULE.
F) GND G) FL460

[John Boucher]

There should be an EST behind that.... in my opinion!

[John.com]

There should be an EST behind that.... in my opinion!

Why Johnno, I don't understand?

[John Boucher]

ESTIMATED would then make it more flexible... the departments below don't actually know what the State Departments may decide and obviously have "alternative" information at their disposal.

Interestingly enough, OR TAMBO's for increased volumes of traffic is till the 17th which is more realistic and in line with the persons I have spoken to.

[John.com]

ESTIMATED would then make it more flexible... the departments below don't actually know what the State Departments may decide and obviously have "alternative" information at their disposal.

Interestingly enough, OR TAMBO's for increased volumes of traffic is till the 17th which is more realistic and in line with the persons I have spoken to.

OK, got you, thanks!

But you're still batting on our team, right Johnno?

(read: Stuff 'EST', we wanna fly!)

[John Boucher]

For sure John