What did you fly this week

[Red Baron]

Hang in there Redeye . Sounds like fun though

[Wart]

Not really in my character to let another student go before me as it is usually "first come; first serve" but I really felt sorry for him. I haven't spoken to him since the incident but I am sure he thinks that I had a hand in it or something

[velocity]

Flew ourselves on Saturday with a bit of help from the microlight guys @ Springs' 50th







more photos from Springs @
http://photobucket.com/albums/a129/aerialfx/

Blue Skies & thanks to all @ Springs for an excellent day (Demon - saw you taxiing out but you looked like you needed to get somewhere.. - next time )

[C205]

Velocity, did you actually take-off and climb sitting side-ways? The trike I jumped I could sit normally behind the pilot and it was not too much of a mission to get my foot over his head and fall off. Suppose it depends on the type of trike though.

[velocity]

Hi 205

We normally sit sideways for the short flights as it means less clambering around the trike @ altitude so less chance of dislodging pins etc which can result in - much safer way IMO. Can sit facing forward and do if flying further as a bit more comfortable

Demon Have some 4 ways school demo events coming up - will contact you

Blue Skies

[velocity]

C205

Forgot to say on your 1st solo

Blue Skies

[Morph]

Not really in my character to let another student go before me as it is usually "first come; first serve" but I really felt sorry for him. I haven't spoken to him since the incident but I am sure he thinks that I had a hand in it or something

You know Wart, sometimes things happen that go against your better judgement and you make a decision out of character, but then it turns out to be a good thing. In this case they had an engine-out, you could have been lower altitude or over inhospitable terrain etc. Someone's looking out for you, just take it as it comes. I am not a superstitous person at all but sometimes you just have got to listen to the little voice. If I were you I'd be glad that you made that decision.

I have a friend who is a retired 747 pilot with over 20000 hours. He is the most superstitous person I have ever met and I now can understand how he become so. A situation happens and you try to find the logical cause, you start avoiding all of these potential situations i.e. you have 2 engine outs and the only common thing between these circumstances is you are wearing green socks. So what do you do, avoid green socks and viola you have become superstitous.

[Wart]

Yep, Morph I tend to agree with you and it did make me think afterwards why I had let him go ahead of me
As you stated it could have ended vastly different if I had been in the fronty seat and not him. We would definitely have been doing different excercises at the time.
The other strange thing is that the instructor was quite shaken by the Chris Twyford accident (they spent a week together on the Aerobatic course at Margate) and I even suggested that out of respect maybe we should stay grounded for the day. He went on to say that Chris would not have wanted it that way but just the thought would have pleased him. Maybe Chris was looking after us all that morning?

[FAWGie]

I've also dropped a meatbomb from a trike....yes, sideways mount is definately better..... (Prefer doing it from my 2 seater fixed wing with the doors off...but on one occasion, a jumper requested a trike jump...)

I wanted to turn my engine off ofr the exit, but the jumper assured me that he preferred it to remain on and idle speed for the jump....(I have watched other jumps before with the engine on...)...

Needless to say, he jumped well clear of the prop...(I slowed the trike down to 8mph pre-stall first.... Gosh, but does the meatball fall fast.....

[FAWGie]

Velocity....

I know that in the case of show jumps (where I have provided the airlift), the correct CAA paperwork and permit documents were in place to autho....

If a jumper wants to do a casual jump over an airfield (NO crowd present), do you still need autho for that too?

[C205]

FAWG if I may answer - only if the airfield is a registered dropzone and then with the approval of that club's chief instructor. You may not drop just over any a/field (it's been done I know!)

[Redeye]

Needless to say, he jumped well clear of the prop...(

I was at a flyin/airshow at witbank once- A meat bomb did the same thing
but put his hand thruogh the prop- He almost landed on my 170- methinks it would be a LOT better to switch off

[FAWGie]

FAWG if I may answer - only if the airfield is a registered dropzone and then with the approval of that club's chief instructor. You may not drop just over any a/field (it's been done I know!)

Thanks 205...that does make a lot of sense.....I haven't been asked adhock as yet, but thought it high time that I found out the answer just in case....

[FAWGie]

Needless to say, he jumped well clear of the prop...(

I was at a flyin/airshow at witbank once- A meat bomb did the same thing
but put his hand thruogh the prop- He almost landed on my 170- methinks it would be a LOT better to switch off

Redeye,

Thanks for the comment...I would have preferred to switch off (I had electric start fitted), but the jumper explained that he preferred some forward motion to launch from and that he had jumped many times before in this config and that I must trust his judgement...I went along with it, although to be honest it has troubled me ever since......If he had made contact, It could have been fatal for him and would have neccesitated an emergency lanfing for me (We were doing a 3000ft jump at the Harbour festival with little place for me to land except the beach nearby.....

I decided in future cases (although the opportunity hasn't arisen yet), I'll insist on an engine off jump....

[C205]

The 'meatbomb' you refer to is a good friend of mine. The circumstances of that jump were unique (I have no inclination to get into that now). However, as Velocity will back me up, I have done two jumps out of a trike and not come near the prop which was running at the time. Trikes have been jumped many times before and since then with the engine running without an incident. As long as the jumper and pilot know about the hazard.