Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
-
- Signed up at flight school
- Posts: 22
- Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:13 am
- Location: Windhoek Namibia
Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Morning,
wonder if someone can help me,im new to the sport.when I fly I must keep pulling back on the bar,its a Aquilla Topless wing.what can the problem be?
wonder if someone can help me,im new to the sport.when I fly I must keep pulling back on the bar,its a Aquilla Topless wing.what can the problem be?
- Madman
- The Boss
- Posts: 1568
- Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:17 pm
- Location: Crosswinds - An Airfield in the Wild West!
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Hi Jacques
When you leave the bar, where is the neutral point
Does the bar pull right up against the profile tube when you leave it
When you leave the bar, where is the neutral point
Does the bar pull right up against the profile tube when you leave it
ZU-BVV "The Black and Yellow Beast"
"There's a party in the sky"
"There's a party in the sky"
-
- The Big Four K
- Posts: 4961
- Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 7:09 am
- Location: Mooketsi,Duiwelskloof
- Contact:
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Do you pull back to stay level,or to keep up with others?
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Sounds to me like the hangpoint is too far back?
Whats your airspeed "handsoff" ?
Whats your airspeed "handsoff" ?
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Heng ek is bly daar is nog n ou wat n probleem het met die bar. Dit voel vir my ook of ek die heeltyd moet terugtrek om hoogte te hou.
Ek handhaaf n spoed van 50myl\hr (airspeed) op 5000 refs maar moet terug trek anders hou ek net aan klim.
Het Sondag saam met n MIZER gevlieg met n 503 op en ek het gesukkel om by hom te bly met die Cobra en die 582 Blue top
Is dit normaal............????
Dalk is Bundi reg. Moet die vliegtuig se hangpunt meer na vorentoe wees of moet die pilot begin gewig verloor..?
Sal bly wees as die fundi's bietjie kan help.
Ek handhaaf n spoed van 50myl\hr (airspeed) op 5000 refs maar moet terug trek anders hou ek net aan klim.
Het Sondag saam met n MIZER gevlieg met n 503 op en ek het gesukkel om by hom te bly met die Cobra en die 582 Blue top
Is dit normaal............????
Dalk is Bundi reg. Moet die vliegtuig se hangpunt meer na vorentoe wees of moet die pilot begin gewig verloor..?
Sal bly wees as die fundi's bietjie kan help.
Louwrens
ZU-TCT (Cobra)
FAWA (Warmbad)
ZU-TCT (Cobra)
FAWA (Warmbad)
-
- Frequent Flyer
- Posts: 1499
- Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:37 pm
- Location: Sky @ FABS (Brits Flying Club)
- Contact:
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
le boss, what happens when you come a bit off the refs, say 4800 rpm? Or are you doing 5000 rpm to try and stay with the other trikes?
Anyway, start by moving your hang point 1 notch forward and then another if it is still not right. This will sort out the pulling back. If the hangpoint is trimmed correctly, you should be able to cruise straight and level hands-off at cruise speed.
Anyway, start by moving your hang point 1 notch forward and then another if it is still not right. This will sort out the pulling back. If the hangpoint is trimmed correctly, you should be able to cruise straight and level hands-off at cruise speed.
Roel Jansen
Never say: "I should have ..."
ZU-IAR powered by BMW 1200
Never say: "I should have ..."
ZU-IAR powered by BMW 1200
-
- Frequent Flyer
- Posts: 1499
- Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:37 pm
- Location: Sky @ FABS (Brits Flying Club)
- Contact:
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
The advice above of moving your hang point is based on the assumption that you have checked the rigging of the wing to be correct.
A stuck luff line in a pulley, or a luffline wound around the end of a batten could also result in a wing wanting to pitch up (or you feeling you need to keep on pulling in).
Please keep us informed of the situation. We all want to learn from these things and the outcome.
As for the original poster of the thread, with a topless wing. Start with moving your hang point.
A stuck luff line in a pulley, or a luffline wound around the end of a batten could also result in a wing wanting to pitch up (or you feeling you need to keep on pulling in).
Please keep us informed of the situation. We all want to learn from these things and the outcome.
As for the original poster of the thread, with a topless wing. Start with moving your hang point.
Roel Jansen
Never say: "I should have ..."
ZU-IAR powered by BMW 1200
Never say: "I should have ..."
ZU-IAR powered by BMW 1200
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Hi Kloot. I had a good look at my wing. The luff line is not stuck and everything else looks to be perfect.
My wing is already adjusted to the furthest position in front. My main issue is that I would love to fly a little bit faster than now.
Your assumption is correct. I do 5000 refs to try and keep up with the others. Normally I fly at about 4600 – 4800 refs when I am alone and even then I am not able to do much more than 50mls\hr. When I pull the bar back I might be able to do 52-55mls…! I am thinking of converting to a topless wing but I am not sure whether that will solve the problem. Other than that Le Boss fly like a dream.
My wing is already adjusted to the furthest position in front. My main issue is that I would love to fly a little bit faster than now.
Your assumption is correct. I do 5000 refs to try and keep up with the others. Normally I fly at about 4600 – 4800 refs when I am alone and even then I am not able to do much more than 50mls\hr. When I pull the bar back I might be able to do 52-55mls…! I am thinking of converting to a topless wing but I am not sure whether that will solve the problem. Other than that Le Boss fly like a dream.
Louwrens
ZU-TCT (Cobra)
FAWA (Warmbad)
ZU-TCT (Cobra)
FAWA (Warmbad)
- Madman
- The Boss
- Posts: 1568
- Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:17 pm
- Location: Crosswinds - An Airfield in the Wild West!
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Morning
Perhaps check your leading edge, perhaps it needs to be trimmed forward as it might be trimmed too far back
On each side of your leading edge, you have markings, so move each side one click forward and do a circuit and check if it made a difference..then do it again until you happy
So the right side will be clicked clockwise and the left side will be clicked anti clockwise
Shweet
Raf
Perhaps check your leading edge, perhaps it needs to be trimmed forward as it might be trimmed too far back
On each side of your leading edge, you have markings, so move each side one click forward and do a circuit and check if it made a difference..then do it again until you happy
So the right side will be clicked clockwise and the left side will be clicked anti clockwise
Shweet
Raf
ZU-BVV "The Black and Yellow Beast"
"There's a party in the sky"
"There's a party in the sky"
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Madman,
I am fascinated by trimming leading edge forward. I looked at my Raptor manual and did not see anything there but I may have missed it. Can you give a bit more detail on what it does?
I am fascinated by trimming leading edge forward. I looked at my Raptor manual and did not see anything there but I may have missed it. Can you give a bit more detail on what it does?
Rob Green
ZU-DMB Raptor
ZU-BWT Aquilla
ZU-TLV RV12
ZU-DMB Raptor
ZU-BWT Aquilla
ZU-TLV RV12
- Madman
- The Boss
- Posts: 1568
- Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:17 pm
- Location: Crosswinds - An Airfield in the Wild West!
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
You will see on each side, there should be a little screw which you can loosen and allows you to turn the tip..I have seen this done plenty
It changes the angle of attack, so your bar's natural position will be pulled more to your tummy which should sort out the current issue of bar pulling
It changes the angle of attack, so your bar's natural position will be pulled more to your tummy which should sort out the current issue of bar pulling
ZU-BVV "The Black and Yellow Beast"
"There's a party in the sky"
"There's a party in the sky"
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Also check your bungie cords...... I replaced my a while back and airspeed increased by almost 5mph. Worn-out bungies not good.....
Caught a dream............
Windlass Aquilla
Thunderbird MKII
Savannah VG
Windlass Aquilla
Thunderbird MKII
Savannah VG
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
le boss wrote:Heng ek is bly daar is nog n ou wat n probleem het met die bar. Dit voel vir my ook of ek die heeltyd moet terugtrek om hoogte te hou.
Ek handhaaf n spoed van 50myl\hr (airspeed) op 5000 refs maar moet terug trek anders hou ek net aan klim.
Het Sondag saam met n MIZER gevlieg met n 503 op en ek het gesukkel om by hom te bly met die Cobra en die 582 Blue top
Is dit normaal............????
Dalk is Bundi reg. Moet die vliegtuig se hangpunt meer na vorentoe wees of moet die pilot begin gewig verloor..?
Sal bly wees as die fundi's bietjie kan help.
Is daar nie dalk n misverstand oor die Hang point nie. Klink of die vlerk in stadigste posisie is. As die hang point aan agterkant van vlerk is.
As jy hang point vorentoe skuif, maw vlerk terugskuif, is hy vinniger en bar nader aan jou.
hoop jy kom reg
I have slipped the surely bonds of earth, and danced the sky’s on laughter-silvered wings ------- Keith Ferris
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Ok, nou's ek lekker deurmekaar..........
Ek glo die vlerk moet voor wees indien jy meer spoed nodig het want dan is jou "angle of attack" kleiner en dus meer spoed. Hoe meer agter jou
vlerk is hoe groter word die hoek dus klim jy vinniger maar vlieg stadiger
Help gou met uitsluitsel oor die saak.
Madman: Ek sal verseker hierdie naweek kyk na daardie verstelling waarvan jy praat. Het al vantevore gehoor van hierdie
verstellings wat jy op die Leadingedge kan doen.
Waar presies is hierdie vertelpunte?
Ek glo die vlerk moet voor wees indien jy meer spoed nodig het want dan is jou "angle of attack" kleiner en dus meer spoed. Hoe meer agter jou
vlerk is hoe groter word die hoek dus klim jy vinniger maar vlieg stadiger
Help gou met uitsluitsel oor die saak.
Madman: Ek sal verseker hierdie naweek kyk na daardie verstelling waarvan jy praat. Het al vantevore gehoor van hierdie
verstellings wat jy op die Leadingedge kan doen.
Waar presies is hierdie vertelpunte?
Louwrens
ZU-TCT (Cobra)
FAWA (Warmbad)
ZU-TCT (Cobra)
FAWA (Warmbad)
- Tumbleweed
- Toooooo Thousand
- Posts: 2349
- Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:14 pm
- Location: FASC
Re: Keep pulling bar back in flight..?
Louwrens, kry jou trike by Nico of 'n AP. Have them go though your settings, fiddle and do a circuit.
Sling ZU FYE - For Your Entertainment
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests